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Post by Stacy 'Goodnight' Goodson on Aug 11, 2006 14:11:25 GMT -5
This is a very good chance for an upset. So much that it's really hard to call it an upset.Belinszky has little chance of even going the distance. How many of you agree. Or not !!!!
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Post by Ryan Wissow on Aug 11, 2006 14:49:57 GMT -5
Chubirka is way bigger and stronger then Belinszky. an upset is very possible! RYAN
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Post by computerrank on Aug 11, 2006 17:30:59 GMT -5
Both didn't show much yet ... but in Hungary?
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Post by Stacy 'Goodnight' Goodson on Aug 11, 2006 19:59:52 GMT -5
Chubirka is bigger and bigger and bigger and looks to be more of a real fighter !
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Post by Bobby Dobbs on Aug 21, 2006 13:42:31 GMT -5
The Hungarians took this fight either out of misplaced bravery or just plain stupidity.
Either way, this will be the end of Belinzsky's winning streak. Marianne is too big and too strong for Belinzsky.
Bobby
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Post by JollyDee on Aug 25, 2006 18:58:29 GMT -5
Chubirka is overweight 2kgs (like Jose Luis Castillo) The contract limit is 48.5Kg!!!
Krisztina DID NOT step back, accepted the challenge of 6kgs / 10Lbs drawback.
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Post by Bobby Dobbs on Aug 25, 2006 22:12:09 GMT -5
Unfortunately Marianne did come in overweight. After not eating since monday and spending 3 sessions in the sauna. The scale she used to test her weight was wrong and she thought that she had made weight. I feel very bad because now when Marianne wins they will have an excuse.
On a side note, they have treated us well with one minor exception. When we arrived Jollydee was supposed to pick us up at the airport. He didnt and we sat in the terminal for two hours before someone came and got us. We were in the process of booking flights home when they finally showed up.
I do not think JollyDee can claim any longer that he has no hometown bias when he is hired by her to pick people up.
But, they have given us good accomodations and were very understanding about the weight. I offered to forfeit 10% of Mariannes purse and they refused.
I just hope they are as nice after the massacre that is coming tommorow night. This fight will not go the distance IMO. I have seen them both fight and this is a mismatch.
Bobby Dobbs Team Chubirka
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Post by marcel on Aug 26, 2006 5:26:29 GMT -5
I hope you pull it off. But I think it will be Belinszki by controversial decision.
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Post by Esteban Erik Stipnieks on Aug 26, 2006 9:12:19 GMT -5
watch out a shot to jaw of Belinsky might be suddenly declared a low blow.
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Post by Ryan Wissow on Aug 26, 2006 12:19:03 GMT -5
like Marcel, i wouldnt be surprised if they give Belinszky a controversial decision, IF she goes the distance.
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Post by Marianne Chubirka on Aug 26, 2006 15:44:05 GMT -5
Tonight my heart is heavy and I feel a little stupid for taking this fight in Hungary...I guess I really didn't believe I could dominate an opponent (read:win EVERY round) and just be ROBBED...WOW...it wasn't even a hard fight for me...other than the fact that she was holding on to me for dear life (while I was warned for it? )...I EASILY won this...not even close...at the end of the fight they just declred her the winner...no judges...only the referee scored the fight...it is so sad that I work hard and this happens...I will not let it get the best of me...
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Post by TD on Aug 26, 2006 21:13:06 GMT -5
Tonight my heart is heavy and I feel a little stupid for taking this fight in Hungary...I guess I really didn't believe I could dominate an opponent (read:win EVERY round) and just be ROBBED...WOW...it wasn't even a hard fight for me...other than the fact that she was holding on to me for dear life (while I was warned for it? )...I EASILY won this...not even close...at the end of the fight they just declred her the winner...no judges...only the referee scored the fight...it is so sad that I work hard and this happens...I will not let it get the best of me... Hi Marianne, You are NOT the first fighter to get robbed in Europe. Basically, you had NO choice but to KO Baby Belinszky, and if she grabbed, you have to throw her off, and kept throwing harder and harder until they DQ. That's the only choice you have to get a grabber like Belinszky to actually fight you. Now you know how Mike Tyson felt against Holyfield when Holyfield HELD and Tyson gets warned. Tyson snapped out of frustration. Look on the bright side, you got to go to Europe and now you know that their "best" ain't nothin but a heartache. Hang in there! TD
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Post by Esteban Erik Stipnieks on Aug 26, 2006 21:40:58 GMT -5
NEVER NEVER NEVER FIGHT IN HUNGARY
I watch Belinsky fight V Stephanie Dobbs she held Dobss for dear life. She could have waltzed with Dobbs alnight.
Any fighter who fights in Hungary is asking begging demanding to get robbed. Any fighter with any self respect needs to boycott Hungary and have Belinsky be stripped of her title.
Now if Sue Fox has any integrity I would tell Jolly Dee where he can stick the photos.
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Post by Esteban Erik Stipnieks on Aug 26, 2006 21:44:11 GMT -5
I will commend Sue Fox for indicating who Jolly Dee represents and I will commend Sue Fox for indicating controversy and how Hungary and Robbery do more then rhyme.
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Post by JollyDee on Aug 27, 2006 7:06:47 GMT -5
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Post by JollyDee on Aug 27, 2006 7:11:11 GMT -5
Unfortunately Marianne did come in overweight. After not eating since monday and spending 3 sessions in the sauna. The scale she used to test her weight was wrong and she thought that she had made weight. I feel very bad because now when Marianne wins they will have an excuse. In my opinion she (Marianne) did it intentional (like Castillo against Corrales). I read it was NOT THE FIRST TIME she owerweigted against Ria Ramnarine.
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Post by JollyDee on Aug 27, 2006 7:26:44 GMT -5
Don't you think it is a contradiction after a new topic opened by Esteban called "Boycott Hungarian Events" Bobby was the first who answered called the Hungarians "worst". It is interesting when when we looked for an opponent for Krisztina (in Sue Fox's WBAN website) he was the first who gave us an offer. He might want to scare out his rivals???
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Post by Esteban Erik Stipnieks on Aug 27, 2006 7:40:26 GMT -5
Well I guess he learned sometimes it takes lots of times to learn that thieves are theives.
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Post by Esteban Erik Stipnieks on Aug 27, 2006 7:41:13 GMT -5
Well I guess he learned sometimes it takes lots of times to learn that thieves are theives.
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Post by JollyDee on Aug 27, 2006 7:47:31 GMT -5
I will commend Sue Fox for indicating who Jolly Dee represents and I will commend Sue Fox for indicating controversy and how Hungary and Robbery do more then rhyme. I have never wanted to hide my position in Krisztina's team. I'm the Head of the press department of SlimTrax Promotion, but me as lead editor of an independent Hungarian boxing website still want to be neutral. please click here and press contact button: www.slimtrax-promotion.hu/index_eng.htmOtherwise I'm a boxing scoring-judge with more than 500 fights, considered excellent. I just have had only ten difference scoring, that means I can't be so biased.
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Post by JollyDee on Aug 27, 2006 7:53:28 GMT -5
Well I guess he learned sometimes it takes lots of times to learn that thieves are theives. Erik, What are you thinking about??? What is the meaning of this?
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Post by Esteban Erik Stipnieks on Aug 27, 2006 8:02:37 GMT -5
Being paid by the promoter and reporting on an event by that promoter is A conflict of interest.
Having viewed the shots of Dobbs V Belinsky fight and the Video I will repeat you did a very good job telling a story that was less then honest.
If you are yelling and screaming cheers for a fighter ringside while being paid by the promoter. Frankly I think it is best that Sue Fox do not post your pictures or your report. It will not offer the fight fan something anywhere near close to the truth.
Bottom line Hungarian boxing crediblity is now 0. Your credibility as a non biased reporter is now 0.
The fact you have certifications mean nothing because your mouth your hands are paid for by Team Belinsky and you are being paid to tell their story. As it so happens in Hungary that story has nothing to do with the truth.
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Post by JollyDee on Aug 27, 2006 8:16:03 GMT -5
Erik,
By all means Bobby biased his wife, and you are americans or american sweetheart, off course how you stand by for Bobby.
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Post by Esteban Erik Stipnieks on Aug 27, 2006 8:21:42 GMT -5
Oh yes When I saw the Dobbs V Belinsky fight I watched the video knowing that Dobbs had agreed to have one of his fighters fight Bianca Ledezma and backed out. Had that fight occurred it would have been a boon to my site.
I watched the video of Dobbs V Belinksy fight with that in the back of my mind! What he said about the fight was backed up by the video.
I also saw video of Moss V Belinksy. The Moss V Belinsky video also indicated a robbery.
Because of that it is entirely possible for me to consider that BObby has a whole lot more credibility then you do.
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Post by Stacy 'Goodnight' Goodson on Aug 27, 2006 9:21:46 GMT -5
Look everybody has said they will Rob ya. It goes on every were , New York and Nevada are the worst , look at Felix Strum and most resent Ike Quartey ,So nobody Bi*ch tell we clean up our own house first. And thats starting with New York and Nevada!!!! And when the girl came in 3 or 4 pounds over, She should have got suspened for that , But a lose is fair enough I guess. A promoter that would take a chance on her fighting on a card buying tickets and all would be crazy ! But what do I know , I am Just Mr.Boxing !!! Stacy"Goodnght"Goodson www.SlugOut.com
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Post by JollyDee on Aug 27, 2006 9:37:26 GMT -5
Look everybody has said they will Rob ya. It goes on every were , New York and Nevada are the worst , look at Felix Strum and most resent Ike Quartey ,So nobody Bi*ch tell we clean up our own house first. ...and Aga Rylik agains Tracy Byrd in Las Vegas at 2003-03-22! Agnieszka wins clearly, according by most spectators.
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Post by marcel on Aug 27, 2006 11:05:02 GMT -5
wtf? Rylik didn't win that fight imho.
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Post by Esteban Erik Stipnieks on Aug 27, 2006 12:58:47 GMT -5
You are talking to a man who will insist that Belinsky clearly beat Dobbs. Leave Reason at the door it does not apply.
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Post by Dee Hamaguchi on Aug 27, 2006 15:16:52 GMT -5
Congrats to Bobby & Marianne for travelling to Hungary & taking on Belinsky&co. At least you guys didn't "get lost" in London! Look, those who think they are the second coming in women's boxing b/c they are hyped-up, protected and never leave their backyard are the real losers in the sport, not those who step up to the plate.
Dee H
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Post by Rex Ang on Aug 27, 2006 17:58:18 GMT -5
Although the hometown bias/decision in Europe and the rest of the world is definitely believable, the excuse of the broken scale is not.
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