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Post by jr on Jun 15, 2006 16:57:28 GMT -5
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Post by marcel on Jun 15, 2006 17:38:23 GMT -5
Yup, we been there before with Peter Pan.
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Post by Bernie McCoy on Jun 15, 2006 17:59:23 GMT -5
I believe Ted Panagiotis disclosed the connection to "Peter Pan" previously. Additionally, the column, in question, was an opinion piece and not a news story. But, and this is a huge but, somewhere in the article or, at the least, as an addendum to the column "Peter Pan" has to make a "full disclosure" of such a family connection.
Bernie
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Post by Bobby Dobbs on Jun 15, 2006 20:28:54 GMT -5
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Post by Ted Panagiotis on Jun 16, 2006 8:04:00 GMT -5
The issue has already been exhausted on the previous message board and no one is trying to hide anything. The sports editor Matt Bezuyen covered the event as well, and if he felt there was something way off base he surely would have edited it, wrote his own story or just left it out altogether. In regards to Fiorentino's comments, all I can say is everyone can have their own opinion. There are many that concur with Jaime's view of the fight, both in the media and in the crowd. As for the relation with the judge, that is 100% true. BTW - Nice pic
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Post by Shirley Ouellette on Jun 17, 2006 11:14:38 GMT -5
Teddy, I know for a fact that you received solid proof that the judge was not related to Peter. Its to bad that you have to go as far as lying and making excuses for the lose. It is true everyone has their own opinion, you are making a war between these 2 girls, you need to face it Missy has the belt, she fought for it and won. I could make you look so bad but I wouldn't waste my time doing that. Right from the beginning you lied on this post and made everyone believe you did the match making, no you did not, this was your quote "Thank you everyone! A lot of the credit should go to Jaime though. She was the main event regardless of her opponent and could have fought anyone, especially after the surgery and layoff, but she welcomed the fight and the chance to give Missy the shot." none of this is true , you didn't match make this fight and no Jamie wasn't suppose to be the main event regardless, the agreement was this would only be a main event if the 2 girls chose to fight one another, and I could go on and on because this wasn't even suppose to be a title fight from the beginning, I could keep on going and explain how it became a title fight, but I would be disrespecting Jamie and I wouldn't do that, if it had to do with you, I wouldn't think twice, it came to a decision and Missy won, if it was the other way around you would have nothing to say, Jamie had all advantages on Missy, she fought Missys fight and couldn't finish it, I don't understand your problem, if Missy gives up the belt Jamie has another chance, because the belt becomes vacant.
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Post by Ryan Wissow on Jun 17, 2006 11:44:10 GMT -5
Missy is an awesome fighter, and no matter what the circumstances were regarding her fight with Clampitt, Missy got the win. Period. i want Missy to fight for the vacant WIBA Featherweight World Title. she can fight Cindy Serrano, from New York, for that title. Cindy fights Maribel Santana tomorrow in the Dominican Republic, after that, assuming she wins, she may then be willing to negotiate a title fight with Missy's people. thats what i am hoping. i am willing to do this fight in Rhode Island, but i am now hearing that Cedric Kushner may be interested in having this fight on one of his Gotham Boxing cards in New York. RYAN
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Post by Bobby Dobbs on Jun 17, 2006 15:00:27 GMT -5
Teddy, I know for a fact that you received solid proof that the judge was not related to Peter. Its to bad that you have to go as far as lying and making excuses for the lose. It is true everyone has their own opinion, you are making a war between these 2 girls, you need to face it Missy has the belt, she fought for it and won. I could make you look so bad but I wouldn't waste my time doing that. Right from the beginning you lied on this post and made everyone believe you did the match making, no you did not, this was your quote "Thank you everyone! A lot of the credit should go to Jaime though. She was the main event regardless of her opponent and could have fought anyone, especially after the surgery and layoff, but she welcomed the fight and the chance to give Missy the shot." none of this is true , you didn't match make this fight and no Jamie wasn't suppose to be the main event regardless, the agreement was this would only be a main event if the 2 girls chose to fight one another, and I could go on and on because this wasn't even suppose to be a title fight from the beginning, I could keep on going and explain how it became a title fight, but I would be disrespecting Jamie and I wouldn't do that, if it had to do with you, I wouldn't think twice, it came to a decision and Missy won, if it was the other way around you would have nothing to say, Jamie had all advantages on Missy, she fought Missys fight and couldn't finish it, I don't understand your problem, if Missy gives up the belt Jamie has another chance, because the belt becomes vacant. Speaking of relations....Shirley forgot to mention that she is Missy's mother. Bobby Dobbs
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Post by Ted Panagiotis on Jun 17, 2006 15:47:08 GMT -5
I am not sure why I or anyone else is making a war between the two girls. Sorry if people think that is my motive somehow. Jaime does not even know any of this stuff is online at all as she is away, but when she was doing the interview for the paper she made it very clear that you and Missy were very gracious after the fight. She has an opinion of the fight, however that does not take away from what happened in the ring - I think anyone that has seen the fight will agree that it was a tremendous fight and both should be commended. Regarding the relation of the judge, no one has ever tried or attempted to give me any proof that they are not related - while I have proof that they are. It's really not an issue anymore anyhow, but if someone has proof than please send it to me and I will 100% come on here and eat my words and apologize. As for being the main event, that is what Jaime was told and that is all that myself or Jaime can go on. If there were other plans than that is news to both of us. As for matchmaking, I tried right from the start to push the credit elsewhere. In the one article where I was actually quoted on SweetScience.com I tried to make that 100% clear. I clearly stated that "my boss" wanted to do the fight. Anyhow, all I can say is that we differ on our opinions of the fight, something which happens everyday in boxing. People still debate Hagler-Leonard, and just like that there will be people who will argue both sides, there is not much that can be done about it. In the end of all of the debates, the fight itself remains as a tremendous fight, probably the fight of the year in womens boxing. There is not much more I can say.
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Post by Shirley Ouellette on Jun 17, 2006 22:15:10 GMT -5
For Bobby, I'm not only her mother I am her manager, and Teddy knows exactly who I am. As a manager I will defend my boxer as you do Dobbs for your boxers.
As for Teddy, we never asked for this fight, I guess both teams were told something different, maybe that was to get both teams to agree to fight, but it doesn't really matter the fight happended and it is over. All I can say is there were 2 other judges and they also seen it Missys way. As Jaime said busines is business, she nor Missy have nothing personal against one another everyone else is making it personal and that is to bad because both these girls are from the same stable. The bottom line is Missy won the belt and Jaime still has a chance to get it back.
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Post by Rick Scharmberg on Jun 27, 2006 6:51:30 GMT -5
For Bobby, I'm not only her mother I am her manager, and Teddy knows exactly who I am. As a manager I will defend my boxer as you do Dobbs for your boxers. sHIRLEY, aRE YOU RELATED TO Stephan Ouellete the middle/light heavyweight boxer of a few yeaqrs back?
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Post by Shirley Ouellette on Jun 27, 2006 22:27:48 GMT -5
Rick, no I am not related
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Post by Dee Williams on Jun 29, 2006 17:34:11 GMT -5
HAPPY BIRTHDAY Shirley!!
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Post by Shirley Ouellette on Jun 29, 2006 21:44:51 GMT -5
Thanks Dee
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