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Post by computerrank on Mar 9, 2008 11:30:00 GMT -5
Menzer defeated Tsagouris in a fine bout - great boxing from both sides.
As women boxing should be.
Menzer now top ranked in Boxrec featherweight ratings.
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Post by Roland Zyschke on Mar 9, 2008 12:18:40 GMT -5
Very good fight indeed. I don't know if voayer plans to upload this fight, but if he does, it's definitely worth a download.  |
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Post by Rick Scharmberg on Mar 11, 2008 9:03:05 GMT -5
Ina got cut up in that one..  |
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Post by Rick Scharmberg on Mar 11, 2008 9:03:33 GMT -5
...but still won...
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Post by Billy Martin on Mar 11, 2008 14:14:55 GMT -5
how do you figure ina won,she landed few right hands big deal.sandy was all over her, body and head,controled the fight anywhere but germany and this fight is scored properly,chech out the ref giving ina nice break in the sixth to have her eye cleaned by her corner,which is illegal
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Post by jr on Mar 11, 2008 16:45:19 GMT -5
how do you figure ina won,she landed few right hands big deal.sandy was all over her, body and head,controled the fight anywhere but germany and this fight is scored properly,chech out the ref giving ina nice break in the sixth to have her eye cleaned by her corner,which is illegal Sandy Tsagouris was right - she was robbed. Why did you accept this fight knowing the history of scoring in Germany? |
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Post by Billy Martin on Mar 11, 2008 17:58:08 GMT -5
we felt we had a vey good chance and sandy wanted to step up,she feels very proud of herself it was her 8th fight and she proved she is a top fighter for sure
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Post by Rick Scharmberg on Mar 12, 2008 9:58:05 GMT -5
how do you figure ina won,she landed few right hands big deal.sandy was all over her, body and head,controled the fight anywhere but germany and this fight is scored properly,chech out the ref giving ina nice break in the sixth to have her eye cleaned by her corner,which is illegal Didn't get to watch the fight, unfortunately. I was going by the result posted on the Internet. |
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Post by femaleboxingfan on Mar 12, 2008 18:30:11 GMT -5
how do you figure ina won,she landed few right hands big deal.sandy was all over her, body and head,controled the fight anywhere but germany and this fight is scored properly,chech out the ref giving ina nice break in the sixth to have her eye cleaned by her corner,which is illegal i didn't watch it really  lol  so you saying sandy won but she got cheated..well i hate to say that but i always say that and sometimes i hate being a broken record so i just sayed something simple to agree..sadly even though sandy loss she still messed up her eye and i don't think ina's eye brow is growing back intime soon |
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Post by femaleboxingfan on Mar 12, 2008 18:32:14 GMT -5
we felt we had a vey good chance and sandy wanted to step up,she feels very proud of herself it was her 8th fight and she proved she is a top fighter for sure ya no know that i think that since ina got so beat up she might give sandy a rematch because thats what happen with Elena and Regina after the first fight |
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Post by len on Mar 13, 2008 15:17:02 GMT -5
It was a close bout that could have gone either way with neutral judges. The cut was the result of an unintentional headbutt and should not have an affect on the decision.
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Post by Roland Zyschke on Mar 13, 2008 17:03:13 GMT -5
I agree, very close fight and I thought 96-94 was actually a good score; 95-95 might have been reasonable as well. No way was this a clear-cut win for Tsagouris and a huge robbery.
Also, the referee did not give Menzer a break to have her eye cleaned, but to have the doc take a look at it (what is how it's supposed to be). That her corner took that opportunity to clean her up is not exactly intended, but pretty much customary.
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Post by Esteban Erik Stipnieks on Mar 17, 2008 21:05:03 GMT -5
What a robbery happening in Germany next thing you will say the sun will rise in the east!
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Post by voayer on Mar 18, 2008 4:30:12 GMT -5
Whinining with "empty pocket" about robbery is easy. A little harder is to collect money and attract fighters in States.
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Post by Esteban Erik Stipnieks on Mar 19, 2008 20:17:00 GMT -5
Sandy is in Canada not the states.
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Post by Frunzi Faller on May 20, 2008 16:37:43 GMT -5
I still can't believe that the judgers only gave Sandy 3 rounds -.-
I want a rematch, this time on the other side of the world because german fans are so unfair. they yell and scream and go crazy when german fighters enter the ring. but when sandy entered the ring, they only gave applause, that's not fair!
Ina just won because the fans would've been mad at the judgers if they would've given the win to Sandy -.-
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Post by jr on May 20, 2008 17:20:50 GMT -5
I still can't believe that the judgers only gave Sandy 3 rounds -.- I want a rematch, this time on the other side of the world because german fans are so unfair. they yell and scream and go crazy when german fighters enter the ring. but when sandy entered the ring, they only gave applause, that's not fair! Ina just won because the fans would've been mad at the judgers if they would've given the win to Sandy -.- Fighters, teams, and officials can be intimidated by hometown crowds. Some venues provide inadequate security for the visiting team and especially the officials who will be concerned for their personal safety if they score in favor of the challenger. |
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Post by femaleboxingfan on May 20, 2008 19:30:31 GMT -5
I still can't believe that the judgers only gave Sandy 3 rounds -.- I want a rematch, this time on the other side of the world because german fans are so unfair. they yell and scream and go crazy when german fighters enter the ring. but when sandy entered the ring, they only gave applause, that's not fair! Ina just won because the fans would've been mad at the judgers if they would've given the win to Sandy -.- Fighters, teams, and officials can be intimidated by hometown crowds. Some venues provide inadequate security for the visiting team and especially the officials who will be concerned for their personal safety if they score in favor of the challenger. Well put answer J.R. but that is not the case all the time because there have been some wins from challengers, two big wins in Germany over the years that i can remember came from Challengers like Yvonne Trevino when she beat Regina halmich and Alicia Ashley when she beat Alesia Graf.In both those fights i have mentioned both victors had to knockout their opponents. However i do wonder if some boxers and their trainers have ever been threaten in some countries but if boxers always get unfair fights and unfair rulings that the best thing to do would be to away from the country that holds the fights but as you know and i both know if the pay is good some one will always fight there and the sad thing is some will risk their health and their life all for money and they can't box some great examples is Marcela Acuna's latest opponent and that fight, also their is a video of a girl jumping like a rabbit vs Chantel Cordova and Anita Wells vs Jmarie Moore. Also if people were threating fighters when they win that would give the place a bad rep and when you have a bad rep and bad publicity which would mean less fights in the hometown but i do agree with you and what you said ;D. However Frunzi and J.R. you both make good points but I am going to leave you both something to think about because their is something you both are forgetting which is that who is watching them fight the people of Europe but more importantly Regina, Ina, Alesia and Julia the boxers of Germany and European stars. However I feel that their is someone in the shadows maybe the promotorers or someone else that controls everythings because if you ever here a boxer from Germany especially robotic and hugely popular they always say the same line over and over. My punches are cleaner than yours...(something like that) |
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Post by jr on May 20, 2008 20:47:08 GMT -5
Fighters, teams, and officials can be intimidated by hometown crowds. Some venues provide inadequate security for the visiting team and especially the officials who will be concerned for their personal safety if they score in favor of the challenger. Well put answer J.R. but that is not the case all the time because there have been some wins from challengers, two big wins in Germany over the years that i can remember came from Challengers like Yvonne Trevino when she beat Regina halmich and Alicia Ashley when she beat Alesia Graf.In both those fights i have mentioned both victors had to knockout their opponents. However i do wonder if some boxers and their trainers have ever been threaten in some countries but if boxers always get unfair fights and unfair rulings that the best thing to do would be to away from the country that holds the fights but as you know and i both know if the pay is good some one will always fight there and the sad thing is some will risk their health and their life all for money and they can't box some great examples is Marcela Acuna's latest opponent and that fight, also their is a video of a girl jumping like a rabbit vs Chantel Cordova and Anita Wells vs Jmarie Moore. Also if people were threating fighters when they win that would give the place a bad rep and when you have a bad rep and bad publicity which would mean less fights in the hometown but i do agree with you and what you said ;D. You don't have to leave the US or North America to find this kind of intimidation. I attended a fight with a racially charged audience and security was poor. |
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Post by femaleboxingfan on May 20, 2008 21:24:59 GMT -5
Well put answer J.R. but that is not the case all the time because there have been some wins from challengers, two big wins in Germany over the years that i can remember came from Challengers like Yvonne Trevino when she beat Regina halmich and Alicia Ashley when she beat Alesia Graf.In both those fights i have mentioned both victors had to knockout their opponents. However i do wonder if some boxers and their trainers have ever been threaten in some countries but if boxers always get unfair fights and unfair rulings that the best thing to do would be to away from the country that holds the fights but as you know and i both know if the pay is good some one will always fight there and the sad thing is some will risk their health and their life all for money and they can't box some great examples is Marcela Acuna's latest opponent and that fight, also their is a video of a girl jumping like a rabbit vs Chantel Cordova and Anita Wells vs Jmarie Moore. Also if people were threating fighters when they win that would give the place a bad rep and when you have a bad rep and bad publicity which would mean less fights in the hometown but i do agree with you and what you said ;D. You don't have to leave the US or North America to find this kind of intimidation. I attended a fight with a racially charged audience and security was poor. Well that just means that fight promotions and the area's gym owner need to be held to a high standard of protection and accontability for security, sadly there is nothing you can do about the audience..except maybe make on of those ads that come up on the screen for football and basketball which talks about no booing the fighters, and encorage and clap for both fighters because its patriotic. |
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Post by Ken Macaulay on Jun 7, 2008 0:12:43 GMT -5
Very good fight, & I though Menzer won it very clearly.
Tsagouris short with most of her shots, & Menzer the much more accurate of the two.
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Post by Rick Scharmberg on Jun 9, 2008 8:32:20 GMT -5
Very good fight, & I though Menzer won it very clearly. Tsagouris short with most of her shots, & Menzer the much more accurate of the two. L'il Tyson certainly had her moments though. She can hit! |
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