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Post by Bobby Dobbs on Apr 28, 2006 1:36:05 GMT -5
3 years ago in Laughlin, NV, Stephanie fought Tracy Stevens and lost a lopsided decision to Tracy Stevens. She was dropped in the 2nd round and could barely lay a glove on Tracy. In the hotel room after that fight I remember Stephanie crying and being really dissapointed that she did so poorly.
At that time she had only been fighting for a few months and Tracy came from a decorated amateur background in Canada.
Fast forward to now. Stephanie since that night has had about 30 pro fights and improved exponentially.
Tonight they fought again in Tulsa and it was obvious things were going to be different from the moment the bell rang and Stephanie landed a right hand. She may have landed 2 punches the entire first fight!
Stephanie put pressure on Stevens, kept her on the ropes, threw hard body shots. At the end of round 3, Stevens indicated she could not continue and Stephanie was awarded the TKO win.
The smile on her face was one I will never forget.
Hard work does pay off and you can get better if you are willing to pay the price. Stephanie will fight again on May 5th, against undefeated Dawn Ramey.
Bobby Dobbs
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Post by berlon55 on Apr 28, 2006 10:24:28 GMT -5
Hello Mr.Dobbs,
Congrats to you and your wife for the tko win over stevens.It truly does sound like your wife has really improved as a boxer.Your fight account of the re-match with Stevens sounds like Stephanie introdued Tracy to what pro-boxing is about as opposed to amateur boxing;pressure and working the body.Sounds like digging to the body really paid off for Stephanie.
Best of luck in the future to the both of you.
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Post by Willie Edwards on Apr 28, 2006 14:39:14 GMT -5
way to go bobby dobbs,your the man,much luv on the fight.
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Post by Bobby Dobbs on Apr 28, 2006 19:32:47 GMT -5
And did you all notice how WBAN ignored the fight?
Sue in her unprofessional bias against me, punishes Stephanie who never did anything to her.
Sue is now in the mode that if she cant write something negative about Stephanie, she wont write anything at all.
Bobby
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Post by Stacy 'Goodnight' Goodson on Apr 29, 2006 22:13:51 GMT -5
Yes sweet revenge , And Stephanie looked like a Vaia Zaganas while Tracy looked like a Nikkie Verbeck , it is hard to believe the girl had did so much as am amateur.It look like Dobbs was the one with years of Amateur fights and Stevens looked like an opponent only fighting to get money to pay some bills.As far as Sue not writing anything about the fight.I thought you called her a F-ing B*tch , From my experiences women folk really kind of turn on ya when you call em that.But Stephanie Got her win and looked great doing it. What else can one ask for !
Ring Side observer
"Goodnight"
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Post by Dee Williams on Apr 29, 2006 22:50:30 GMT -5
Tracy came from a decorated amateur background in Canada. ... Hard work does pay off and you can get better if you are willing to pay the price. Stephanie will fight again on May 5th, against undefeated Dawn Ramey. Bobby Dobbs The only "decoration" here is Bobby's. In case you don't remember, here's what I told the Forum BEFORE this fight, at womensboxing.proboards59.com/index.cgi?board=upcoming&action=display&thread=1144360413"I think Bobby has a little "hype" going on there, Tracey was the Canadian national amateur silver medalist in in 1997 and 1998, but she was never on the national team like her gym-mate Kathy Williams. Tammy DelaForest and Jamie Behl were the top fighters in Tracey's weight class in Canada at that time.
Tracey said she stopped training some years back, and she was KO'd in 26 seconds by Melinda Cooper in her last fight. She was also stopped early by Wendy Rodriguez and Vaia Zaganas, basically giving up in both fights. She hasn't had a quality win since early 2003, and she attributed this to her lack of boxing training after her gym folded.
If she has decided to get serious and resume training again at age 31, then it could be an interesting fight because Tracey was once a promising contender. Her best pro outing was probably her upset win over Nina Ahlin, who she came close to stopping in March 2000.
But that's a long time ago and she looked only a shadow of her former self in her last four fights.
But something tells me Bobby has that all figured out, the way he's talking up Tracey's career from back when she was in her early twenties, and the "rematch" angle  "Bobby's still assuming the Forum readers have no memory. Tracey Stevens came to this Forum's predecessor to explain that she had not trained in years. This "rematch" was not the potential thriller that Bobby is hyping, but a test of how far Tracey Stevens has fallen. Revenge may indeed be sweet, but this taste of it should be very hollow to anyone who's really paying attention. |
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Post by Stacy 'Goodnight' Goodson on Apr 29, 2006 23:08:21 GMT -5
It kind of reminds me of that Movie trading places with Eddy Murphey !
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Post by Bobby Dobbs on Apr 29, 2006 23:36:14 GMT -5
I never said it was a "thriller". You mention Cooper knocking her out in 30 seconds. Stephanie lasted a 1:30 with Cooper. So that sort of negates your point doesnt it?
Here are the facts. Tracy beat Stephanie 3 years ago easily. Stevens is a decorated amateur with dozens of fights. She is a southpaw.
If Stephanie was the same as she was 3 years ago, she would have lost again. I flew Yvonne Caples in to spar with Stephanie and she trained her ass off. She worked hard for that one and it was a milestone type of win for her.
I realize you and Sue dont like me. The feeling is mutual. I think both of you are basically knowledge-less idiots with a forum for your venom.
BUT, Stephanie has nothing to do with that. You should try and treat her the same way you would any other fighter, lest you want to seem even more unproffesional than both of you already are.
Bobby Dobbs
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Post by Dee Williams on Apr 30, 2006 0:05:06 GMT -5
Stevens is a decorated amateur with dozens of fights. You are the one "decorating" Tracey Stevens. She was once a promising prospect but that stopped when she stopped training, which was several years ago according to her own account. That's far to long. Tracey was never an amateur champion at the national level and her best moment came when she fought Nina Ahlin SIX YEARS AGO. I hope Stephanie knows better than to believe your hype about Tracey Stevens, the 2006 version, who is now not at all the boxer she once looked like she might be. Inactivity and not training will do that, you are spinning Tracey's past record and totally ignoring how long ago the successful part of it was. |
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Post by Dee Williams on Apr 30, 2006 0:32:05 GMT -5
I flew Yvonne Caples in to spar with Stephanie and she trained her ass off. She worked hard for that one and it was a milestone type of win for her. ... BUT, Stephanie has nothing to do with that. You should try and treat her the same way you would any other fighter, lest you want to seem even more unproffesional than both of you already are. I have said not a single negative word about Stephanie and I fully expected that she would be training seriously for her fights. My point is that Tracey Stevens, for some years, by her own account, has NOT been doing that. She came to this Forum's predecessor and told us that she was not training any more, and her recent, infrequent, ring performances in which she has made early exits have shown exactly what anyone would expect as a result of that. Any negative comments I have made here have NOT been about Stephanie or her training, they have been about YOU matching a past-her-prime Tracey against her and THEN hyping the rematch as something much more than it was, given the state of Tracey Stevens' boxing career. Yes, it was an opportunity for Stephanie to square her record against a fighter who once beat her (but who is now going nowhere). Yes, you got the result you wanted, and that's good for Stephanie ... PROVIDED she doesn't fall for your hype about where Tracey Stevens's boxing career is at now. If you think that was a "milestone type of win", I beg to disagree. Several years ago, maybe, but not now. |
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Post by Bobby Dobbs on Apr 30, 2006 0:45:12 GMT -5
Why was it such a great victory for Stevens three years ago when she beat Stephanie? (a fighter who had only began boxing a few months earlier) WBAN ran a feature story about the fight and posted about 10 pics of it. But, when Stephanie beats her you feel sad for Stevens?. Why was it such a great victory for Stevens to beat a beginner and such a useless victory for Stephanie to beat her? I flew Yvonne Caples in to spar with Stephanie and she trained her ass off. She worked hard for that one and it was a milestone type of win for her. ... BUT, Stephanie has nothing to do with that. You should try and treat her the same way you would any other fighter, lest you want to seem even more unproffesional than both of you already are. I have said not a single negative word about Stephanie and I fully expected that she would be training seriously for her fights. My point is that Tracey Stevens, for some years, by her own account, has NOT been doing that. She came to this Forum's predecessor and told us that she was not training any more, and her recent, infrequent, ring performances in which she has made early exits have shown exactly what anyone would expect as a result of that. Any negative comments I have made here have NOT been about Stephanie or her training, they have been about YOU matching a past-her-prime Tracey against her and THEN hyping the rematch as something much more than it was, given the state of Tracey Stevens' boxing career. Yes, it was an opportunity for Stephanie to square her record against a fighter who once beat her (but who is now going nowhere). Yes, you got the result you wanted, and that's good for Stephanie ... PROVIDED she doesn't fall for your hype about where Tracey Stevens's boxing career is at now. If you think that was a "milestone type of win", I beg to disagree. Several years ago, maybe, but not now. |
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Post by Dee Williams on Apr 30, 2006 1:29:47 GMT -5
Why was it such a great victory for Stevens three years ago when she beat Stephanie? (a fighter who had only began boxing a few months earlier) WBAN ran a feature story about the fight and posted about 10 pics of it. I wasn't on WBAN back then but I'd say it means Sue got sent about 10 pics by a good photographer. She wasn't able to pay for many photos back then, so she used what she got sent. I didn't think it was a "great victory" for Tracey to beat a beginner like Stephanie was then. Like I've said here before, I think Tracey's best moment as a pro was her win over Nina Ahlin. You're the one who's hyping the rest of Tracey's record, not me. Look, I'm happy for Stephanie to get a win against someone who beat her before. Just don't make more of it than it really is. Stephanie's been active and training hard, Tracey hasn't, for a long time now. That matters. |
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Post by Dee Williams on Apr 30, 2006 8:10:16 GMT -5
WBAN ran a feature story about the fight and posted about 10 pics of it. I found the WBAN "feature" story Bobby is talking about from 2003. It was just ONE short paragraph, written by Mary Ann Owen, the photographer, giving the fight score (40-35 for Tracey) and mentioning that Tracey had been an amateur boxer. There were four photos, not ten. It said nothing about a "great victory" it was a basic note that the fight had occurred giving the result and a sentence or two of background, to go with the photos Mary Ann had sent to Sue. Mary Ann often covers women's fights in Nevada and that's why there were some photos of this fight, it took place in Laughlin. If Sue gets photos of a fight she posts them with the photographer's comments. and that's all this was. The rest is just Bobby's over-active imagination at work again, "decorating" the facts. |
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Post by Bobby Dobbs on Apr 30, 2006 11:11:19 GMT -5
WBAN ran a feature story about the fight and posted about 10 pics of it. I found the WBAN "feature" story Bobby is talking about from 2003. It was just ONE short paragraph, written by Mary Ann Owen, the photographer, giving the fight score (40-35 for Tracey) and mentioning that Tracey had been an amateur boxer. There were four photos, not ten. It said nothing about a "great victory" it was a basic note that the fight had occurred giving the result and a sentence or two of background, to go with the photos Mary Ann had sent to Sue. Mary Ann often covers women's fights in Nevada and that's why there were some photos of this fight, it took place in Laughlin. If Sue gets photos of a fight she posts them with the photographer's comments. and that's all this was. The rest is just Bobby's over-active imagination at work again, "decorating" the facts. Dee, you are full of it. Compare the coverage of the first fight to the second. |
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Post by Ted Panagiotis on Apr 30, 2006 11:24:21 GMT -5
IMO Stephanie's win over Stevens is a big time win! Forget about what Stevens said about training, having known so many fighters - and dealt with so many directly through the years - fighters will say whatever they want to take focus off of a loss. That could clearly be the case with Stevens. My wife knows her from the amateurs, where she had many fights and was very skilled - for Dobbs (who had no amateur experience) a win over this type of opponent weather she was homeless coming off the street is big - even bigger considering the fact that Stevens won easy the first time. All of the people who have beaten Stevens would be favored against Dobbs, even now - not that they would all beat her as I think Stephanie is way more improved than people give her credit for. But the fact that all Stevens' previous conquerors would be favored against Dobbs is an important key here.
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Post by Dee Williams on Apr 30, 2006 13:18:29 GMT -5
Compare the coverage of the first fight to the second. Compare your comments to the facts. You're too much into needlework and embroidery, Bobby. |
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Post by Dee Williams on Apr 30, 2006 13:28:27 GMT -5
My wife knows her from the amateurs, where she had many fights and was very skilled - for Dobbs (who had no amateur experience) a win over this type of opponent weather she was homeless coming off the street is big - even bigger considering the fact that Stevens won easy the first time. With all respect, Jaime saw Tracey years ago when Tracey was in the gym and training. I'm not disputing at all that Tracey looked a good prospect years ago, even though she was not the "decorated" amateur of Bobby's fantsay world. Read the posts, Ted. Stacey saw this fight and said Tracey looked like Nikki Verbeck. Tracey's gone a long way downhill from her peak, as you can expect from her telling the truth. And that was my point all along. You know you can only stay in mental and physical shape for pro boxing by training hard. Tracey hasn't been bringing her 'A' game to her fights for some years now, she admitted that. Bobby is spinning this like crazy, and that's his job, but that does not mean we all have to fall for it. |
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Post by Bobby Dobbs on Apr 30, 2006 13:43:39 GMT -5
Compare the coverage of the first fight to the second. Compare your comments to the facts. You're too much into needlework and embroidery, Bobby. Ok, here are the facts. When Tracy beat Stephanie WBAN ran a front page story and posted several pics. Three years later, when Stephanie beat Stevens. There was not one word on the site about it. I realize your paranoia of upsetting Sue leads you to post stupid things. But, remember, she can't hurt you! You are still her pregnant dog no matter what! Bobby |
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Post by Bobby Dobbs on Apr 30, 2006 13:44:15 GMT -5
Yes sweet revenge , And Stephanie looked like a Vaia Zaganas while Tracy looked like a Nikkie Verbeck , it is hard to believe the girl had did so much as am amateur.It look like Dobbs was the one with years of Amateur fights and Stevens looked like an opponent only fighting to get money to pay some bills.As far as Sue not writing anything about the fight.I thought you called her a F-ing B*tch , From my experiences women folk really kind of turn on ya when you call em that.But Stephanie Got her win and looked great doing it. What else can one ask for !
Ring Side observer
"Goodnight"
You called her and Dee the same thing and they post your results! Bobby |
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Post by Stacy 'Goodnight' Goodson on Apr 30, 2006 21:55:42 GMT -5
Bobby
Dee and Sue are d**n Good people , and I will have no part in you attacking the credibility and Character , WBAN Rules !
The Good lord said its not right for a man and another man to lay together, But I don't think the good lord would send a guy like you to hadies.
(Carl from Sling Blade )
Stacy"GOODNIGHT"Goodson
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Post by Rick Scharmberg on May 10, 2006 9:27:18 GMT -5
Stephanie is a pro's pro, and she loves to fight no matter who is across the ring from her. She trains hard even though she works full time and has a family. Granted she's not 40-0, but she is always in shape and win or lose, she always give a good account of herself, and never trashes an opponent. In other wiords, she is a credit to the sport.
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