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Post by Martin Peters on Nov 10, 2007 4:54:32 GMT -5
Anyone feel that the whole handing over of the crown (if both women's fights go according to plan) a bit artificial? Wouldn't a Halmich-Kenkitian matchup be the better solution? Of course, it would never happen, would it? But who would win such a bout?
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Post by Ryan Wissow on Nov 11, 2007 3:17:21 GMT -5
Halmich doesnt want to go into retirement coming off of a loss, and i cant say i blame her.
after Halmich retires, Elena Reid will be the #1 female flyweight in the world, with Kentikian #2. these two should fight next year, to determine who is the best female flyweight on the planet.
RYAN
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Post by computerrank on Nov 11, 2007 4:10:54 GMT -5
... dito ...
Women world active flyweight ratings
1 Regina Halmich 167
2 Elena Reid 112
3 Susi Kentikian 103
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Post by Martin Peters on Nov 11, 2007 6:35:06 GMT -5
But where would Reid and Kentikian fight? Elena has shown willingness to fight away from home, but having been robbed once (and some say twice) in Germany she may not be willing to chance it again. A fat purse would make a difference, of course!
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Post by Ryan Wissow on Nov 11, 2007 18:22:59 GMT -5
Reid and Kentikian would fight in Germany.
Reid is totally willing and eager to fight in Germany again.
it also helps that the germans pay well.
RYAN
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Post by Christian Brown on Dec 4, 2007 21:53:45 GMT -5
The fact that Halmich and Kentikian would rather hand the title over than fight each other is a shame and is flat out stupid. Susi has been around long enough and those two have appeared on television together and on the same cards together enough for this fight to have happened. Disgusting.
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Post by Martin Peters on Dec 5, 2007 0:27:27 GMT -5
Well, there'd be a hell of a lot of money in it, that's for sure! But Halmich may feel she's getting a bit too old and wouldn't be able to deal with her younger opponent...or conversely Susi and her camp may not want to take such a risk (losing to a fading champion) when there are so many more fights ahead of her...or maybe they are simply too close, friends even, which acts against any kind of fight being made.
However, if I were a promoter, I'd wait a while and make the two of them the offer of their lives, and see how they feel when the word money talks loud.
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Post by Rick Scharmberg on Dec 7, 2007 6:53:30 GMT -5
I think Halmich would decision them both.
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Post by computerrank on Dec 8, 2007 10:12:52 GMT -5
Kentikian again only close win to Hokmi ...
She definitely is limited.
The women to defeat is Reid ...
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Post by Rick Scharmberg on Dec 10, 2007 14:26:26 GMT -5
Kentikian again only close win to Hokmi ... She definitely is limited. The women to defeat is Reid ... Good point, computerrank |
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Post by marcel on Dec 10, 2007 15:27:51 GMT -5
It's more that Hockmi is underrated. imho Kentikian would beat Reid without major problems.
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Post by voayer on Dec 13, 2007 8:30:12 GMT -5
It's more that Hockmi is underrated. imho Kentikian would beat Reid without major problems. I agree with fist part. Hokmi is definitelly underrated. But i doubd that Kentikian would beat Elena without major problems. Don't forget against whom fought Susi already: www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=292211&cat=boxerRecord is impressive, but rang of her opponents is not that impressive. |
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Post by marcel on Dec 13, 2007 16:58:02 GMT -5
I will try my very best to make that fight in 2008.
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Post by Allan Garside on Dec 14, 2007 17:43:44 GMT -5
I will try my very best to make that fight in 2008. Hey Marcel, I know this is off topic but I was just wondering. Has anyone ever contacted you on Jeannine's behalf to get a fight in Europe? Allan |
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Post by marcel on Dec 15, 2007 3:43:06 GMT -5
Hi Allan. nop they didnt that I remember.
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Post by femaleboxingfan on Dec 17, 2007 14:14:29 GMT -5
It's more that Hockmi is underrated. imho Kentikian would beat Reid without major problems. Say what    dude, Okay first off until Elena Reid fights Nadia Hockmi then we can say she would win or lose and first off have you seen Hockmi's record, dude please. The only time HOckmi has ever won a fight was against people with 4 to O fights. The only think Elena has to worry about is not bleeding, headbutts and illegal moves. Because truth be told Elena beat Regina the first time and had a draw with her the second time. |
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Post by femaleboxingfan on Dec 17, 2007 14:16:25 GMT -5
I will try my very best to make that fight in 2008. Hey Marcel, I know this is off topic but I was just wondering. Has anyone ever contacted you on Jeannine's behalf to get a fight in Europe? Allan I think Garside should fight Ina Menzer or Alesia Graf because if she fought Ina Menzer the one thing they have in common is punching power and that would be interesting to see those two go at it |
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Post by femaleboxingfan on Dec 17, 2007 14:38:02 GMT -5
Halmich doesnt want to go into retirement coming off of a loss, and i cant say i blame her. after Halmich retires, Elena Reid will be the #1 female flyweight in the world, with Kentikian #2. these two should fight next year, to determine who is the best female flyweight on the planet. RYAN Ryan, who picked Regina's fights? This should be illegal seriously Susianna K. robs Elena and every one else of the chance to get the belt this is exactly what screws up this sport. German underhandlings and how they heck does they have Susi 2nd in the rankings?? |
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Post by marcel on Dec 17, 2007 15:44:25 GMT -5
It's more that Hockmi is underrated. imho Kentikian would beat Reid without major problems. Say what dude, Okay first off until Elena Reid fights Nadia Hockmi then we can say she would win or lose and first off have you seen Hockmi's record, dude please. The only time HOckmi has ever won a fight was against people with 4 to O fights. The only think Elena has to worry about is not bleeding, headbutts and illegal moves. Because truth be told Elena beat Regina the first time and had a draw with her the second time. I don't say this much, but your comments force me to say this: Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. So I won't even get into it:) Especially not about the very last comment you made. |
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Post by femaleboxingfan on Dec 17, 2007 19:43:04 GMT -5
Say what dude, Okay first off until Elena Reid fights Nadia Hockmi then we can say she would win or lose and first off have you seen Hockmi's record, dude please. The only time HOckmi has ever won a fight was against people with 4 to O fights. The only think Elena has to worry about is not bleeding, headbutts and illegal moves. Because truth be told Elena beat Regina the first time and had a draw with her the second time. I don't say this much, but your comments force me to say this: Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. So I won't even get into it:) Especially not about the very last comment you made. Sorry I wasn't trying to offend you, also good rebuttal that was pretty funny comment though even you may disagree with me |
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Post by Roland Zyschke on Dec 18, 2007 11:04:24 GMT -5
Hokmi has to fight abroad all the time, she was robbed against Galassi and Christensen, and certainly not scored favorably in her fights against Kentikian. There is no question Hokmi is underrated.
And I'm not sure why you complain about Kentikian's No. 2 rating either. She has won 14 of her 19 fights by stoppage, more than double than any other boxer in that weight class; this has little to do with "German underhandlings".
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Post by femaleboxingfan on Dec 18, 2007 16:11:07 GMT -5
Hokmi has to fight abroad all the time, she was robbed against Galassi and Christensen, and certainly not scored favorably in her fights against Kentikian. There is no question Hokmi is underrated. And I'm not sure why you complain about Kentikian's No. 2 rating either. She has won 14 of her 19 fights by stoppage, more than double than any other boxer in that weight class; this has little to do with "German underhandlings". are you sure, are you postively sure, i mean maybe i could be wrong won't be the first or the last time but okay what about Alesia Graf vs Zulina Munoz, i thought she won that or should have got a draw |
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Post by Rick Scharmberg on Dec 19, 2007 9:08:45 GMT -5
Halmich doesnt want to go into retirement coming off of a loss, and i cant say i blame her. after Halmich retires, Elena Reid will be the #1 female flyweight in the world, with Kentikian #2. these two should fight next year, to determine who is the best female flyweight on the planet. RYAN Ryan, who picked Regina's fights? This should be illegal seriously Susianna K. robs Elena and every one else of the chance to get the belt this is exactly what screws up this sport. German underhandlings and how they heck does they have Susi 2nd in the rankings?? Where ja from, Justin? |
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Post by femaleboxingfan on Dec 19, 2007 16:04:49 GMT -5
Ryan, who picked Regina's fights? This should be illegal seriously Susianna K. robs Elena and every one else of the chance to get the belt this is exactly what screws up this sport. German underhandlings and how they heck does they have Susi 2nd in the rankings?? Where ja from, Justin? I think i might take that statement out about German underhand-lings because i don't want any one to be offended and try and take me out..lol with a sniper... ;D  also why ya wanna no where i amfrom?  |
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Post by computerrank on Dec 19, 2007 16:38:23 GMT -5
I think i might take that statement out about German underhand-lings because i don't want any one to be offended and try and take me out..lol with a sniper... ;D also why ya wanna no where i amfrom? ... because otherwise nobody will take you for real ... |
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dude, Okay first off until Elena Reid fights Nadia Hockmi then we can say she would win or lose and first off have you seen Hockmi's record, dude please. The only time HOckmi has ever won a fight was against people with 4 to O fights. The only think Elena has to worry about is not bleeding, headbutts and illegal moves. 
also why ya wanna no where i amfrom? 