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Post by TD on Mar 8, 2010 20:00:25 GMT -5
Sorry Jason but YOU don't know what you are looking at if you think Menzer is NOT the KO QUEEN in her weightclass. Sure its a 38% KO rating, but I guarantee you, any babe that takes a Menzer shot is trying to remember their phone number later that night.
1 Ina Menzer (GE) 26-0-0 (10 KO) 577 15454 <<<<<<<< THE POWER SHOT ARTIST
2 Jackie Nava (MX) 20-3-2 (10 KO) 629 4586 <<<<<<<< I like her but she's a combo KO artist
3 Sandy Tsagouris (CA-ON) 10-1-0 (4 KO) 462 3987 <<<<<<<< My favorite and maybe the fastest hands in the div.
4 Jeri Sitzes (US-MO) 14-9-1 (6 KO) 1020 2172 <<<<<<<< Tough as nails but NOT a harder puncher than the Menz.
5 Jennifer Barber (US-CA) 9-1-0 (4 KO) 323 1558 <<<<<<<< Really good puncher but has NOT fought top shelf fighters
6 Claudia Lopez (AR) 14-4-0 (3 KO) 482 1291 <<<<<<<< Can't comment
7 Jeannine Garside (CA-ON) 8-3-1 (3 KO) 1506 1190<<<<<< great combos, a blond haired NAVA
8 Dominga Olivo (US-NY) 6-5-1 (0 KO) 1813 1182<<<<<< cannot say
9 Irma Balijagic-Adler (BH) 10-0-0 (5 KO) 153 1162 <<<<<< controversy abounds to be able to say
10 Hyo-Min Kim (KR) 3-0-1 (1 KO) 1198 1057 <<<<<< if you've seen one Kim you've seen her next-Kim
Sorry to say, face reality, Menzer BANGS. Would nava beat her? NOPE. Would Lill Tyson? Yep! Who else? Can't say.
Ada is a big girl, she knows what she is doing. If she didn't want to knock Menzer out I doubt she would take the fight. She knows she has no chance to win a UD or SD in GERMANY. The world knows that.
Don't underestimate Brooke, let the germans do that. Brooke has a heart as big as a VW and she's a hard body. Better still, she is the Lion in the match up, NOT Menzer. But Menzer never doubts her power, she stays cool yet fierce. I applaud her.
If she was an american fighter, she'd be on HBO making Millions. Too bad she LIMITS herself. And she can never-ever say she is the best as long as she hides out in Germany and does NOT face the best in a fiar fight. IMO.
TD
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Post by Yvonne Reis on Mar 9, 2010 14:31:15 GMT -5
Ada is really best at 118lb and will take on anyone at that weight. The higher weights were to get the ring rust off. She is picky as to who she would fight at higher weights. She is really at 118 a force to recken with!!
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Post by TD on Mar 9, 2010 19:56:41 GMT -5
Hey Yvonne,
Ada is fun to watch. At 118 I'd like to see how much power she has. But she's got be really fast on her feet.
Post a note when her fight with Stay Lo makes youtube, OK?
I get your gist that she has no interest in Menzer at 126 but a 25K check changes everything, does it not?
The way I see it, some American lady has to go over there and put Menzer into the first row. But I hear ya.
I hope you and Stacey can patch things up...she's just being a fighter...who ALWAYS wins, no matter what. You have to believe or you can never do. Knowhatimsayin?
TD
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Post by John Hill on Mar 10, 2010 2:02:40 GMT -5
Ada Velez has had 2 fights after a layoff of almost 3 years. Ring rust does not wear off with just 1 fight. It takesseveral fights t regain confidence, timing, movement, accuracy etc. before your natural style returns. When Ada has her game on her opponent is in real trouble. The reason these American fighters take these fights in Germany is for one reason only "MONEY" and Universum pays good money for opponents. Over the years I have had many conversations by mail, E mail and in person with Marischa Sjauw and her former husband Marcel(who is involed in Universums match making). Universum spends a lot of money on their fighters such as room and board, salary and a up to the miutegym with trained instructors. Theyare not putting outthat money to have their fighterslose so controling the outcome is a must. If by chance one of our fighters KO'd one of theirs they would come up with some bogus rule to disqulify the winner. Have you read the article on Sue's site WBAN about our first lady Machelle Obama inviting the amatuer female fighterto the White House on the St Patricks day celebration. The article state that Mrs. Obama did some boxing in her younger days and is a fight fan what a lift to womens boxing our first lady could be to the sport.
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Post by Jason Ozuma on Mar 10, 2010 8:51:03 GMT -5
Ada Velez has had 2 fights after a layoff of almost 3 years. Ring rust does not wear off with just 1 fight. It takesseveral fights t regain confidence, timing, movement, accuracy etc. before your natural style returns. When Ada has her game on her opponent is in real trouble. The reason these American fighters take these fights in Germany is for one reason only "MONEY" and Universum pays good money for opponents. Over the years I have had many conversations by mail, E mail and in person with Marischa Sjauw and her former husband Marcel(who is involed in Universums match making). Universum spends a lot of money on their fighters such as room and board, salary and a up to the miutegym with trained instructors. Theyare not putting outthat money to have their fighterslose so controling the outcome is a must. If by chance one of our fighters KO'd one of theirs they would come up with some bogus rule to disqulify the winner. Have you read the article on Sue's site WBAN about our first lady Machelle Obama inviting the amatuer female fighterto the White House on the St Patricks day celebration. The article state that Mrs. Obama did some boxing in her younger days and is a fight fan what a lift to womens boxing our first lady could be to the sport. 1. First thank you another person agrees that Ada isn't ready to fight Ina and shouldn't. 2. I knew Universum didn't throw away money extravangantly. People should realize this by know. 3. John I think your wrong on this and this alone, if a fighter ko's them more than 3 times their is not a thing they can do except give it to the fighter, as simple as that. First because of the title commission would be under Huge scrutiny and huge investigations which i don't think they would risk. 4. It would be interesting to see if The First Lady would promote women boxing but its possible. |
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Post by TD on Mar 10, 2010 16:16:41 GMT -5
Jason think about what YOU are saying;
1. Menzer isn't all that much of a puncher
2. Ada should stay away from a Menzer fight.
Totally inconsistent.
Ada should train her ass off and take a Menzer fight. Why wouldn't she? Weight? Rust? She's NOT in Menzer's league? She was advised by YOU to NOT fight? She won't throw for a KO? Pick ONE. Only one.
TD
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Post by Yvonne Reis on Mar 10, 2010 18:06:52 GMT -5
First gentlemen,
Ada is not interested unless it is 118. And second, TD ada doesn't want me to put it on youtube. she doesn't want people to study her, not just yet. So, I will not until she says it is ok. Sorry.
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Post by John Hill on Mar 10, 2010 18:30:11 GMT -5
wHAT i WAS TRYING TO SAY IS LIKE YVONNE SAID WHEN aDA GETS OVER RING RUST AND AT HER BEST RING WEIGHT OF 118 LBS SHE WOULD BEAT MENZER AT A FIGHT LOCATION OUTSIDE OF UNIVERSUM AND GERMANY.
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Post by TD on Mar 10, 2010 19:54:22 GMT -5
First gentlemen, Ada is not interested unless it is 118. And second, TD ada doesn't want me to put it on youtube. she doesn't want people to study her, not just yet. So, I will not until she says it is ok. Sorry. Yvonne- Ada is already on youtube. She's been seen, studied and scouted. Let them look at a rusty ADA. Think Yvonne, show rust, Then>>> Boom<< that's the non-rusty Ada. Hey, where did that come from? TD |
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Post by Jason Ozuma on Mar 10, 2010 23:40:03 GMT -5
wHAT i WAS TRYING TO SAY IS LIKE YVONNE SAID WHEN aDA GETS OVER RING RUST AND AT HER BEST RING WEIGHT OF 118 LBS SHE WOULD BEAT MENZER AT A FIGHT LOCATION OUTSIDE OF UNIVERSUM AND GERMANY. John you know that is never going to happen, right. |
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Post by John Hill on Mar 11, 2010 1:40:59 GMT -5
I agree Jason, it will never happen because Universum will not let their fightersoutside of their HOME TOWN protection. We saw this with Halmich who lost only 1 fight and that was when Yvonne Terinno gave her a beating in Las Vegas. She never fought outside of Germany since. She claimed she wanted a re-match with Yvonne in Germany to a tone for her only loss. Trevino wouldhave accepted for the money because she is a single parent with a daughter who could use the money. As far as Ada and Menzer fighting outside of Germany your right it will never happen because Menzer don"t want her butt kicked.
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Post by Jason Ozuma on Mar 11, 2010 11:07:25 GMT -5
I agree Jason, it will never happen because Universum will not let their fightersoutside of their HOME TOWN protection. We saw this with Halmich who lost only 1 fight and that was when Yvonne Terinno gave her a beating in Las Vegas. She never fought outside of Germany since. She claimed she wanted a re-match with Yvonne in Germany to a tone for her only loss. Trevino wouldhave accepted for the money because she is a single parent with a daughter who could use the money. As far as Ada and Menzer fighting outside of Germany your right it will never happen because Menzer don"t want her butt kicked. We all know Regina didn't want a rematch not even a fair rematch. Once again I agree with you John, cuz when your right your right. Menzer and Graf are handled more carefully than a fragile package. Menzer starting becoming a joke after getting whooped by Sandy then after not knocking out Franchesca Alcanter...i could go on for days. Even though some of their female fighters are jokes that doesn't mean you shouldn't take them seriously. Any one can knock you out if your not paying attention. |
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Post by TD on Mar 11, 2010 14:59:05 GMT -5
Menzer is protected and THAT is the joke. Fighting in Germany is a joke.
In terms of her ability, Menzer is a very very strong fighter. But to call Menzer a Joke--that is a joke. Look she put Kasha and Stay Lo in La-la Land. She did lose to Lill Tyson but who wouldn't. Lill Tyson Rules!
So first you say, Menzer is too dangerous for Ada, then you say she's a joke. Totally mixed up there aren't you?
While I dislike Dee's rating system, look at Menzer's score at the top of the page...granted, about 1/3 of the score is based on having her promoter, her "dad" as ref, her "uncles" as judges and family as fans, but still, she is #2 in the division in my rankings, right behind Lill Tyson Tsagouris!
TD
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Post by Jason Ozuma on Mar 11, 2010 17:26:03 GMT -5
Menzer is protected and THAT is the joke. Fighting in Germany is a joke. In terms of her ability, Menzer is a very very strong fighter. But to call Menzer a Joke--that is a joke. Look she put Kasha and Stay Lo in La-la Land. She did lose to Lill Tyson but who wouldn't. Lill Tyson Rules! So first you say, Menzer is too dangerous for Ada, then you say she's a joke. Totally mixed up there aren't you? While I dislike Dee's rating system, look at Menzer's score at the top of the page...granted, about 1/3 of the score is based on having her promoter, her "dad" as ref, her "uncles" as judges and family as fans, but still, she is #2 in the division in my rankings, right behind Lill Tyson Tsagouris! TD This is the first right thing you have said all day that fighting in Germany with Universum is a joke a really bad joke that people keep laughing till they cry and they cry because we can't produce something better than that monstrosiety. First, I don't care about Dee's ranking, if you care about Dee's ranking so much then make your own. Second, have you actually read my comments I have never mentioned Menzer as dangerous. My message has always been clear: 1 You never underestimate a fighter 2 Pay attetion to what is going on to the boxing world because what happens to one person can happen to anyone 3 Some places you should not fight 4 IF you fight in a bad place bring a big torch or tank to blow them away. 5 Study who you are fighting against I can call anyone powerful but if there isn't any proof then how can it be true. I hate to tell you this but Kasha was a third rate boxer, Stacey really hasn't face many tough opponents before and after she faced Ina. Also Lil tyson really hasn't face many tough opponents either so i would not call her invincible either. Also Menzer has not tried to face Acuna, Nava or Garside instead of fighting those three she fought Franchesca Alcanter...tell me that is not protected like a package. Jelena smashed Alcanter to the ground motionless. I mean Ina could have fought Jelena but she didn't why....PROTECTED not powerful. TD, I am consistent as always, if I misspoke then quote me on it and I will admit i was wrong. With all your claims you have no proof. I can back my statements 100%. |
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Post by TD on Mar 11, 2010 17:56:54 GMT -5
JASON YOU SAID: "... Ina doesn't have any knockout power. Think about it, look at her record man, she didn't even knockout Franchesca Alcanter. Look at who she knocked out Kasha Chamblin, STacy, 2 fighters debuting, fighters who didn't have wins.”
JASON YOU ALSO SAID: "...Don't request every jane or jill to fight Menzer just because they get some 1 or 2 wins, honestly. I like that you have ideas but you need to try to think them thru a bit..."
JASON YOU ALSO SAID: "...First thank you another person agrees that Ada isn't ready to fight Ina and shouldn't."
Summarizing YOU: menzer has no power because she couldn't knock out Alcanter. Ada Ace Velez should NOT fight Menzer. ( same Menzer that has no power, according to you) and you throw in a warning, that people should be careful who they match menzer with...is that the same Menzer who YOU dismissed as NOT having Knockout power?
You make ZERO sense.
TD
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Post by Jason Ozuma on Mar 11, 2010 23:58:35 GMT -5
JASON YOU SAID: "... Ina doesn't have any knockout power. Think about it, look at her record man, she didn't even knockout Franchesca Alcanter. Look at who she knocked out Kasha Chamblin, STacy, 2 fighters debuting, fighters who didn't have wins.” JASON YOU ALSO SAID: "...Don't request every jane or jill to fight Menzer just because they get some 1 or 2 wins, honestly. I like that you have ideas but you need to try to think them thru a bit..." JASON YOU ALSO SAID: "...First thank you another person agrees that Ada isn't ready to fight Ina and shouldn't." Summarizing YOU: menzer has no power because she couldn't knock out Alcanter. Ada Ace Velez should NOT fight Menzer. ( same Menzer that has no power, according to you) and you throw in a warning, that people should be careful who they match menzer with...is that the same Menzer who YOU dismissed as NOT having Knockout power? You make ZERO sense. TD I make perfect sense, you may not get but. What does Ada have to gain if she fought Ina, absolutely nothing. Ada right know currently has a promoter who is willing to put her in some good fights. Why should she have to go to Germany to get an automatic loss. Ada has not gone against the top challengers of Ina's district, she scrapped by Kaliesha west and from Stacey viewpoint it seems that Ada scraped by again. If I were Ada I would try to work my way back up, work with her promoter she could probably get the a title shot much closer to home. If Ada went to Germany and was successful in outclassing Menzer, she still would not get a win, even if she knocked out Ina twice they, Universum would give Ina the win. Didn't you learn that from Sandy and Esther fighting in Germany or from Terri Cruz ransacking Alesia...? You need 3 - 4 ko's to get a win, its simple math but the probablity of getting that is astronomical, did you think of the pro's and con's of fighting Ina? Well I did, I am sorry if you don't get it and if anyone else doesn't get it. |
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Post by TD on Mar 12, 2010 10:31:16 GMT -5
JASON YOU SAID: "... Ina doesn't have any knockout power. Think about it, look at her record man, she didn't even knockout Franchesca Alcanter. Look at who she knocked out Kasha Chamblin, STacy, 2 fighters debuting, fighters who didn't have wins.” JASON YOU ALSO SAID: "...Don't request every jane or jill to fight Menzer just because they get some 1 or 2 wins, honestly. I like that you have ideas but you need to try to think them thru a bit..." JASON YOU ALSO SAID: "...First thank you another person agrees that Ada isn't ready to fight Ina and shouldn't." Summarizing YOU: menzer has no power because she couldn't knock out Alcanter. Ada Ace Velez should NOT fight Menzer. ( same Menzer that has no power, according to you) and you throw in a warning, that people should be careful who they match menzer with...is that the same Menzer who YOU dismissed as NOT having Knockout power? You make ZERO sense. TD I make perfect sense, you may not get but. What does Ada have to gain if she fought Ina, absolutely nothing. Ada right know currently has a promoter who is willing to put her in some good fights. Why should she have to go to Germany to get an automatic loss. Ada has not gone against the top challengers of Ina's district, she scrapped by Kaliesha west and from Stacey viewpoint it seems that Ada scraped by again. If I were Ada I would try to work my way back up, work with her promoter she could probably get the a title shot much closer to home. If Ada went to Germany and was successful in outclassing Menzer, she still would not get a win, even if she knocked out Ina twice they, Universum would give Ina the win. Didn't you learn that from Sandy and Esther fighting in Germany or from Terri Cruz ransacking Alesia...? You need 3 - 4 ko's to get a win, its simple math but the probablity of getting that is astronomical, did you think of the pro's and con's of fighting Ina? Well I did, I am sorry if you don't get it and if anyone else doesn't get it. WHAT DOES SHE HAVE TOI GAIN? Duh, how bout THE CHAMPIONSHIP BELT. How bout THE GLORY and THE MONEY. THE FAME and the accolades of beating Menzer! There are NOT many other fights worth fighting. Maybe you miss that vital driver for this spot; MONEY-BELTS-GLORY...that's it. You dodge those, you might as well quit. Simple as that. Who the hell else is worth fighting and why would anyone care about those NON-title fights? TD |
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Post by Jason Ozuma on Mar 12, 2010 10:59:24 GMT -5
I make perfect sense, you may not get but. What does Ada have to gain if she fought Ina, absolutely nothing. Ada right know currently has a promoter who is willing to put her in some good fights. Why should she have to go to Germany to get an automatic loss. Ada has not gone against the top challengers of Ina's district, she scrapped by Kaliesha west and from Stacey viewpoint it seems that Ada scraped by again. If I were Ada I would try to work my way back up, work with her promoter she could probably get the a title shot much closer to home. If Ada went to Germany and was successful in outclassing Menzer, she still would not get a win, even if she knocked out Ina twice they, Universum would give Ina the win. Didn't you learn that from Sandy and Esther fighting in Germany or from Terri Cruz ransacking Alesia...? You need 3 - 4 ko's to get a win, its simple math but the probablity of getting that is astronomical, did you think of the pro's and con's of fighting Ina? Well I did, I am sorry if you don't get it and if anyone else doesn't get it. WHAT DOES SHE HAVE TOI GAIN? Duh, how bout THE CHAMPIONSHIP BELT. How bout THE GLORY and THE MONEY. THE FAME and the accolades of beating Menzer! There are NOT many other fights worth fighting. Maybe you miss that vital driver for this spot; MONEY-BELTS-GLORY...that's it. You dodge those, you might as well quit. Simple as that. Who the hell else is worth fighting and why would anyone care about those NON-title fights? TD Now who is the one not making sense now? Ada Velez has never fought: Esther Schouten Jeanine Garside Lil Tyson Kaliesha West Stacy Reile....and so on and so forth I will use your own principle TD, that if Ada wanted to fight for a title she could fight and get top dollar: Yessica Marcos who has WBA, FAB title Susi Ramaden of Australia who has WBF title Marcela Acuna of Argentina who has WBC title Ana Julaton who has IBA and WBO title of California/Philipines Lisa Brown who has WIBA title of Canada You don't have to go to Germany to find Glory or Titles or money. ;D You make it sound easy to win in Germany, when it is not, if any body could smash Ina and walk away with a win, we would not be having this conversation and so many people would not have been cheated dealing with Universum. Going back to what i said previously that fighting Ina is a bad joke, you may be able to trash her but you most likely won't walk away with a win. Also this Glory that you speak of, how many out of country fighters have ever had glory dealing with Universum, can you name 2 fighters off the top of your head that had this glory that you speak of? |
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Post by TD on Mar 13, 2010 13:32:48 GMT -5
WHAT DOES SHE HAVE TOI GAIN? Duh, how bout THE CHAMPIONSHIP BELT. How bout THE GLORY and THE MONEY. THE FAME and the accolades of beating Menzer! There are NOT many other fights worth fighting. Maybe you miss that vital driver for this spot; MONEY-BELTS-GLORY...that's it. You dodge those, you might as well quit. Simple as that. Who the hell else is worth fighting and why would anyone care about those NON-title fights? TD Now who is the one not making sense now? Ada Velez has never fought: Esther Schouten Jeanine Garside Lil Tyson Kaliesha West Stacy Reile....and so on and so forth I will use your own principle TD, that if Ada wanted to fight for a title she could fight and get top dollar: Yessica Marcos who has WBA, FAB title Susi Ramaden of Australia who has WBF title Marcela Acuna of Argentina who has WBC title Ana Julaton who has IBA and WBO title of California/Philipines Lisa Brown who has WIBA title of Canada You don't have to go to Germany to find Glory or Titles or money. ;D You make it sound easy to win in Germany, when it is not, if any body could smash Ina and walk away with a win, we would not be having this conversation and so many people would not have been cheated dealing with Universum. Going back to what i said previously that fighting Ina is a bad joke, you may be able to trash her but you most likely won't walk away with a win. Also this Glory that you speak of, how many out of country fighters have ever had glory dealing with Universum, can you name 2 fighters off the top of your head that had this glory that you speak of? Jason, who is WBAN's #1 rated fighter in the division? MENZER. Which promoter is paying the most dollars to fight title bouts to challengers? MENZER'S Which fighter in the div. is undefeated? MENER Who is typically described as the hardest hitting and toughest to beat? MENZER. You get CHALLENGE, REWARD, GLORY AND MONEY IN ONE FIGHT. Sure its a stacked deck, a hostile set up, a huge task. But stealing the GIANT'S GOLD IS NEVER EASY. But the route to doing just that is via a KO. Why did anyone go to germany to fight MENZER? She is the giant with the gold. No other reasons to fight unless you are a hobby fighter. If all those other fighters were possible and probable, why have they even been hinted at? Reason, those fighters don't have the same promotion powerhouse behind them that menzer has. Now, if ADA is dropping down in weight to fight for titles and decent purses at BELOW Menzer weights, well there's glory and dinero there, but nowhere near the same glory and dinero that awaits in Germany. I never knew a single contender/belt challenger worthy fighter who didn't seek the glory and the dinero. TD |
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Post by Jason Ozuma on Mar 14, 2010 3:45:04 GMT -5
It is true at some time Universum was the only promoter paying top dollar however their are promoters in South Korea, Argentina, Canada and Japan, probably Chinese promoters or other German promoters even European promoters.
How ridiculous, do you know Ina personally? Have you ever trained a fighter that fought Ina? This glory you speak of has no facts and figures in it. Universum isn't a powerhouse promotion, I admit they are good but not that good. Some things are simple to see when a fighter doesn't do well against another fighter those are facts. Did Terri Cruz get this glory that you so bluntly speak of? Did Esther a women surviving breast cancer get this glory when she fought a beat Ina but was left in tears. Comeon, did any fighter who put a beating on Universum crew get this so called glory? No maybe Alicia Ashely but not many others.
They get some fights happen but not nearly the best fights. I can back that with facts.
Last Ada needs to fight in the weight division that she is comfortable in, there is no use fighting in an uncomfortable division unless you can win 80%, people shouldn't put on uncomfortable shoes and clothes unless they have to.
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Post by Yvonne Reis on Mar 14, 2010 9:08:29 GMT -5
First Ada does not have a promoter and secound I would love for Jill to win, but it is a Burchfield card in RI. They called me for that fight and I said yes to Clampett but no to Burchfield. I really love Jill, she is an awnsome person with heart and skill, but I have fought on Jimmy's card will never be that stupid again. Foul me once shame on you, twice shame on me!
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Post by Jason Ozuma on Mar 14, 2010 17:28:48 GMT -5
Ada has a promoter or a good manager but she had two fights in the same year, so she must have something workin for her?
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Post by John Hill on Mar 15, 2010 1:24:03 GMT -5
Ada is a seasoned veteran who has paid her dues in womens boxing. She is a main event fighter. Her experience and being in there with the best of them is the proof her drawing power of promoters booking her. With Ada you knowyou are going to get 100% action. She is being handled by Bonnie Canino (who is a legend in herown right.)
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Post by TD on Mar 15, 2010 11:44:15 GMT -5
It is true at some time Universum was the only promoter paying top dollar however their are promoters in South Korea, Argentina, Canada and Japan, probably Chinese promoters or other German promoters even European promoters. How ridiculous, do you know Ina personally? Have you ever trained a fighter that fought Ina? This glory you speak of has no facts and figures in it. Universum isn't a powerhouse promotion, I admit they are good but not that good. Some things are simple to see when a fighter doesn't do well against another fighter those are facts. Did Terri Cruz get this glory that you so bluntly speak of? Did Esther a women surviving breast cancer get this glory when she fought a beat Ina but was left in tears. Comeon, did any fighter who put a beating on Universum crew get this so called glory? No maybe Alicia Ashely but not many others. They get some fights happen but not nearly the best fights. I can back that with facts. Last Ada needs to fight in the weight division that she is comfortable in, there is no use fighting in an uncomfortable division unless you can win 80%, people shouldn't put on uncomfortable shoes and clothes unless they have to. Is there a BIGGER fight for Ada out there right now? NO. A BIGGER purse? NO More GLORY than beating menzer in Germany? NO A bigger challenge? NO A more coveted belt? NO. Name one promoter putting more GOLD on the table than Univers.? YOU CAN'T. Great fighters fight other great fighters. Everybody that has fought a DK or TR fighter faced tough odds, but that is where the GOLD and GLORY was. Who really cares if you beat a nobody? Nobody does, that's about it. Now, if you know you are going to get your ass beat, then its foolhardy to try. 3/4 of the battle is believing you can beat Menzer. Like it or not Universium is putting on title fights on a regular basis that plenty of people see and know about. Sure, nobody has put Menzer to sleep, she's not easy to beat, but she is certainly beatable. So go fight a nobody, and nobody cares. Go fight a champion and everybody watchs. Dodge fight a champion and change your occupation to HOBBY FIGHTER. TD |
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Post by Jason Ozuma on Mar 17, 2010 15:42:31 GMT -5
It is true at some time Universum was the only promoter paying top dollar however their are promoters in South Korea, Argentina, Canada and Japan, probably Chinese promoters or other German promoters even European promoters. How ridiculous, do you know Ina personally? Have you ever trained a fighter that fought Ina? This glory you speak of has no facts and figures in it. Universum isn't a powerhouse promotion, I admit they are good but not that good. Some things are simple to see when a fighter doesn't do well against another fighter those are facts. Did Terri Cruz get this glory that you so bluntly speak of? Did Esther a women surviving breast cancer get this glory when she fought a beat Ina but was left in tears. Comeon, did any fighter who put a beating on Universum crew get this so called glory? No maybe Alicia Ashely but not many others. They get some fights happen but not nearly the best fights. I can back that with facts. Last Ada needs to fight in the weight division that she is comfortable in, there is no use fighting in an uncomfortable division unless you can win 80%, people shouldn't put on uncomfortable shoes and clothes unless they have to. Is there a BIGGER fight for Ada out there right now? NO. A BIGGER purse? NO More GLORY than beating menzer in Germany? NO A bigger challenge? NO A more coveted belt? NO. Name one promoter putting more GOLD on the table than Univers.? YOU CAN'T. Great fighters fight other great fighters. Everybody that has fought a DK or TR fighter faced tough odds, but that is where the GOLD and GLORY was. Who really cares if you beat a nobody? Nobody does, that's about it. Now, if you know you are going to get your ass beat, then its foolhardy to try. 3/4 of the battle is believing you can beat Menzer. Like it or not Universium is putting on title fights on a regular basis that plenty of people see and know about. Sure, nobody has put Menzer to sleep, she's not easy to beat, but she is certainly beatable. So go fight a nobody, and nobody cares. Go fight a champion and everybody watchs. Dodge fight a champion and change your occupation to HOBBY FIGHTER. TD TD you are passionate and head strong, never listening to anyone around you. I will leave you to agrue with Dee or someone else but not me. A clock is ticking which clock and for who, there are many clocks from fighters dreaming of the chance to have one fight in the year but who never see it and others who are getting older and older but still wanting to box. I will admit I don't know if there is a BIGGER fight for Ada out there right now? a BIGGER purse, I don't know. More GLORY than beating menzer in Germany, I don't know coveted belt? there are too many belts and boxing fans are tired of them I don't know a promoter putting out more money than Universum but Alesia Graf hasn't had that many fights and neither has Ina this year. Universum, seems to be having some trouble. If you look at Yessica Bopp she has had more fights in 2009 than Ina and Alesia. Also everyone is a nobody, we should now that, until we reach their hometown. Last thing old people, politicans and people with too much time on their hands argue. I better stop then cya... |
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Post by John Hill on Mar 17, 2010 19:03:00 GMT -5
Jason, do not anyone upset you or your beliefs. Everyone is intitled to their opinion and stick with it. We are all friends here with a common cause which is womens boxing. TD is a formermanager of one of womens finest, Debra Nichols and he uses the same ruleshere as managers and trainers use to give their fighter and edge, rattle your oponent to throwthem off their game. Thats his style. I enjor and respect ever member of this forum and their opinions. what they say interests me. Just hang in their and keep writing.
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Post by Jason Ozuma on Mar 17, 2010 19:57:03 GMT -5
Jason, do not anyone upset you or your beliefs. Everyone is intitled to their opinion and stick with it. We are all friends here with a common cause which is womens boxing. TD is a formermanager of one of womens finest, Debra Nichols and he uses the same ruleshere as managers and trainers use to give their fighter and edge, rattle your opponent to throwthem off their game. Thats his style. I enjoy and respect ever member of this forum and their opinions. what they say interests me. Just hang in their and keep writing. J ohn don't be ridicoulous, I believe in freedom of speech. I am just tired of stupid matches like: Stephanie Dobbs vs Hagar finer or Elena Reid vs Nadia Hockmi or Mia St John vs El Haba ...chump fights and stupid fights, or Yessica Bopp fighting chumps like Diana Gonzalez. TD can be him and you can be you and I'll be me. I want to be a wrecking ball and start help putting some L on some of these fake champion's records, thats all John. I thank you for being so concerned about me and all but i rather you join my effort on creating a boxing promotion and TD too. |
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