Post by TD on Apr 23, 2009 15:42:25 GMT -5
I just read some of the back and forth between Nicole and a promoter in Germany. And then Rita's same sort of back and forth with the same promoter.
What is surprising is that, how can anyone be surprised by what has transpired?
Is the same old horseshit that has gone on for years and years with women boxers.
First mistake any boxer makes is talking/negotiating DIRECTLY with a promoter. Any promoter knows that a fighter wants to fight and that a fighter is 100% proud of their abilities and they USE that in some twisted way to BEAT/TRICK/ABUSE THE FIGHTER INTO TAKING THE FIGHT ON THEIR TERMS.
What's a bigger joke is the actual "contract" if you want to call it that.
So when a promoter wants you to fight, ask when/what the particulars are about the venue ( number of seats ringside, number of cheap seats) , the gate ( attendance Xs the ave. cost per person), the broadcast rights, the after-fight rights ( who owns the broadcast...99% of the time the promoter does...if its a great fight, he/she will find a way to sell that fight to someone or somehow).
See, the promoter makes MORE money the LESS you (fighter) know about YOUR show. YES, ITS YOUR SHOW. YOUR CHIN TAKING THE SHOTS, NOT HIS/HERS.
I have to laugh, a promoter will say ITS MY SHOW, NOT YOURS. Oh really??? Are YOU ( promoter) fighting? Are YOU ( promoter) going to walk away with the lumps? Are YOU ( the promoter) going to train for 8 to 12 weeks to be ready to fight? Are YOU ( the promoter) going to go to a foreign, unfriendly place and DO COMBAT, usually with someone YOU HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT?
Its a huge friggin joke of a system and it victimizes the fighter. Worse, it doesn't make for GOOD or FAIR fights, just " easy wins" or worse, "set up muggings" ( you become the easy win for his/her hometown fighter).
See, we all know, every fighter wants to fight. They (promoters) know this inate drive YOU (fighter) have to fight...and they throw you a "line" with cold dog food on it and see if you'll take it.
GO MMA. SCREW THE BOXING WORLD. TRUTH BE SAID,ITS THE SAME OLD HORSESHIT IS BEING THROWN AT FIGHTERS BY A NEW GENERATION OF PROMOTERS, BOTH MALE AND FEMALE.
TD
What is surprising is that, how can anyone be surprised by what has transpired?
Is the same old horseshit that has gone on for years and years with women boxers.
First mistake any boxer makes is talking/negotiating DIRECTLY with a promoter. Any promoter knows that a fighter wants to fight and that a fighter is 100% proud of their abilities and they USE that in some twisted way to BEAT/TRICK/ABUSE THE FIGHTER INTO TAKING THE FIGHT ON THEIR TERMS.
What's a bigger joke is the actual "contract" if you want to call it that.
So when a promoter wants you to fight, ask when/what the particulars are about the venue ( number of seats ringside, number of cheap seats) , the gate ( attendance Xs the ave. cost per person), the broadcast rights, the after-fight rights ( who owns the broadcast...99% of the time the promoter does...if its a great fight, he/she will find a way to sell that fight to someone or somehow).
See, the promoter makes MORE money the LESS you (fighter) know about YOUR show. YES, ITS YOUR SHOW. YOUR CHIN TAKING THE SHOTS, NOT HIS/HERS.
I have to laugh, a promoter will say ITS MY SHOW, NOT YOURS. Oh really??? Are YOU ( promoter) fighting? Are YOU ( promoter) going to walk away with the lumps? Are YOU ( the promoter) going to train for 8 to 12 weeks to be ready to fight? Are YOU ( the promoter) going to go to a foreign, unfriendly place and DO COMBAT, usually with someone YOU HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT?
Its a huge friggin joke of a system and it victimizes the fighter. Worse, it doesn't make for GOOD or FAIR fights, just " easy wins" or worse, "set up muggings" ( you become the easy win for his/her hometown fighter).
See, we all know, every fighter wants to fight. They (promoters) know this inate drive YOU (fighter) have to fight...and they throw you a "line" with cold dog food on it and see if you'll take it.
GO MMA. SCREW THE BOXING WORLD. TRUTH BE SAID,ITS THE SAME OLD HORSESHIT IS BEING THROWN AT FIGHTERS BY A NEW GENERATION OF PROMOTERS, BOTH MALE AND FEMALE.
TD