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Post by TD on Nov 4, 2011 14:03:08 GMT -5
Valentina "The Bullet" Shevchenko-- write down this ladies name, future champion of MMA and I predict the first lady to take out Cyborg.
In term of boxing, of course she deserves a TITLE shot--dam, look at the skill and committment to punching--the Bullet throws ALL OUT, and she has a RIGHT HOOK ( she 's a lefty).
Obvious ballet-dance skills and total desire to take out an opponent. She's a fierce fighter but I predict she will be the most DODGED fighter since Cyborg/Rijker.
She's linked on WBAN and is fighting Sacc for the title...should be a thrilling fight.
TD
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Post by Ryan Wissow on Nov 4, 2011 21:01:28 GMT -5
finally, someone who gets it!
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Post by Jason Ozuma on Nov 6, 2011 0:06:44 GMT -5
finally, someone who gets it! Anyone can see that valentina has skill but having a title shot after 1 fight is a bad idea however this is none of our business this is actually between you an the promoter, the one actually paying for the title The question no one is asking is why does Valetina want a boxing title when she is a popular, very popular muay thai fighter?? why is she boxing, when she could do other sports, is this just a whim or does she want a career in this sport? If you wanted to prove her legitimacy an authenticity as a boxer, why not have her spare Kina malpartida the peruvian superfeather champion an have her say how strong or weak she is? I agree with Sue for on this that it is a lose-lose situation, if Valentina beats Ann, that means her career is in a really rocky road, which i think is most likely going to happen because valentina is so strong, fast an very very active in combat sports If valentina loses which i dont think will happen because she is famous an fighting in her home country but could happen then it could be called a mishandling an mismatch, to me I just wish you would give more information but like i said to you before you can or you dont have to because it is your business! Why rush getting a title, why are they in a hurry to get a title, could they have payed for the title an you gave it to them after valentina fought 2-3 more fights? |
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Post by TD on Nov 6, 2011 13:35:35 GMT -5
Jason--first off, she has ONE boxing match. So she is not a new-bie to fighting, second- she had wicked(good) skills, third--its female boxing, a sport where all the rules of male boxing championship matchs don't apply, fourth--she wants to be tested--applaud her for that. She can go out and beat on other 2-0, 4-0 rookies but I'm guessing she gets NO sport in that.
Lastly, the fans that see her and Ann will see a real fight, no kidding, a real "balls out" fight.
No matter what the outcome, the sport wins, a star will be born and two women will have thrilled fans, enhanced the sport and received a payday. ONWARD!
My guess, boxing is just a quick stop for her. Not many women will stay in boxing when you have MMA offering better everything...of course Dana White may be a problem down the road as he dislikes women's MMA.
TD
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Post by Ryan Wissow on Nov 6, 2011 15:01:15 GMT -5
Valentina's one boxing win came in a 10 rounder, against a girl with a 12-2 record who was rated #15 by WIBA at the time.
there is no need to pad Valentina's record against weak opposition, she is ready and able to step up NOW.
and also, dont believe what Melissa is saying about not wanting to fight a 1-0 girl. she just fought a 4-10 girl down under.
Melissa's issue is not Valentina's record, its the fear of losing a decision in Peru. thats the real reason for not taking the fight. Melissa had a legit offet to defend her title and she refused. and your right about Valentina vs Saccurato being a war. very entertaining clash of styles.
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Post by Ryan Wissow on Nov 6, 2011 15:10:23 GMT -5
also, for the record. Melissa had no other offers to defend her title. she is hard to get fights for. other fighters avoid her, and promoters dont trust her after walking out of the Holm fight.
she turned down a 5-figure payday with neutral judges guarenteed in contract. Melissa is a great fighter, but she only wants to win titles; she doesnt want to defend the titles she already has.
sometimes, a champion has to fight the few willing to step up.
if Melissa doesnt want to defend her title, i have a business to run and i have other promoters and contenders ready and willing to fight for the WIBA title. its easy to talk smack when you only know, or care about, one side of the story.
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Post by Jason Ozuma on Nov 6, 2011 19:00:11 GMT -5
also, for the record. Melissa had no other offers to defend her title. she is hard to get fights for. other fighters avoid her, and promoters dont trust her after walking out of the Holm fight. she turned down a 5-figure payday with neutral judges guarenteed in contract. Melissa is a great fighter, but she only wants to win titles; she doesnt want to defend the titles she already has. sometimes, a champion has to fight the few willing to step up. if Melissa doesnt want to defend her title, i have a business to run and i have other promoters and contenders ready and willing to fight for the WIBA title. its easy to talk smack when you only know, or care about, one side of the story. Are you talking to me or Melissa, because melissa hernandez isnt here! I agree that Melissas walk out against Holly Holm has ruin here record of reliability but I believe that Melissa would have fought her if this fight was not a title fight, the problem is not the location but the fact that she is fighting a 1-0 fighter for a title fight however the fight with that opponent down under was given to her while she was in australia, that fight was not planned with the prazack/garbatt under card, however people who may question Melissa H reliability have to look at the fact she didnt run from garbatt or jelena which are some great an tought opponents however only melissa manager knows what melissa wants to fight, however i think that Layla mccarter was actually the most out of line an should be more desperate to get a fight that Melissa to be honest, i mean she want against the retired belinda but ryan you cant please everyone, do your thing an be safe |
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Post by Jason Ozuma on Nov 6, 2011 19:05:07 GMT -5
Jason--first off, she has ONE boxing match. So she is not a new-bie to fighting, second- she had wicked(good) skills, third--its female boxing, a sport where all the rules of male boxing championship matchs don't apply, fourth--she wants to be tested--applaud her for that. She can go out and beat on other 2-0, 4-0 rookies but I'm guessing she gets NO sport in that. Lastly, the fans that see her and Ann will see a real fight, no kidding, a real "balls out" fight. No matter what the outcome, the sport wins, a star will be born and two women will have thrilled fans, enhanced the sport and received a payday. ONWARD! My guess, boxing is just a quick stop for her. Not many women will stay in boxing when you have MMA offering better everything...of course Dana White may be a problem down the road as he dislikes women's MMA. TD Td your my friend, i like you but please quit gabbing your mouth off, Kina malpartida is the top boxer in peru, if she wanted to test herself why not fight her or have a boxing exhibition, why does Valentina make a statement about her endeavour or wants in boxing?? She was an amateur boxer in russia, thanks to youtube we know this, but I would love to hear from valentina or her promoter about their aspirations in the world of boxing, if it is a longterm venture or just a venture an ui see your point but i rather an want to hear from them because only they know the truth! |
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Post by Jason Ozuma on Nov 6, 2011 19:56:51 GMT -5
Valentina's one boxing win came in a 10 rounder, against a girl with a 12-2 record who was rated #15 by WIBA at the time. there is no need to pad Valentina's record against weak opposition, she is ready and able to step up NOW. and also, dont believe what Melissa is saying about not wanting to fight a 1-0 girl. she just fought a 4-10 girl down under. Melissa's issue is not Valentina's record, its the fear of losing a decision in Peru. thats the real reason for not taking the fight. Melissa had a legit offet to defend her title and she refused. and your right about Valentina vs Saccurato being a war. very entertaining clash of styles. Why would you want to pad her record in the first place with weak competiton?? an did you actually read what I wrote? However Santos never won against a real opponent, she almost beat laura the italian but besides that, no one else she has actually won against, what about kim connor or tiffany junot but you are the risk tasker ryan, sometimes it pays off an sometimes it doesnt, an when you mention neutral judges what about garsides fight with irma adler or amanda crespin vs carla torres, but it is your business, not ours |
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Post by TD on Nov 7, 2011 10:39:37 GMT -5
ITS A TITLE FIGHT! VALENTINA WANTS GREAT FIGHTS, CHALLENGES.
AND SHE IS SKILLED ENOUGH TO DESERVE THAT.
MORE SO, FANS WILL LOVE WATCHING THIS FIGHT.
WOMEN'S BOXING WINS WHEN THE FANS GET INTERESTED.
THE BULLET IS THE TIP OF THE SPEAR, SO TO SPEAK, IN THE SPORT!
TD
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Post by Allan Garside on Nov 7, 2011 12:19:32 GMT -5
This is an interesting fight. Not just because its a fight between two good fighters but also because of all the bullshit attached to it. Should this be a title fight? I think if you where to ask the Peruvians and people who know of her the answer would be a definite yes. Is this a president setting fight? No. Just look a Martins and Rykers records and you can see. Is it the bad WIBA? No. there are a lot more questionable title fights than this going on and by more reputable sanctioning bodies. What about the fighters? Do I think Ann should turn down this fight? No. She is a fighter. I'm sure turning down any fight would just go against her grain. which do you think would hurt her pride more? taking the fight or turning it down? I think turning it down would hurt more. What about Hernandez? I can see why she would be ticked. After all, this is the second time someone has pulled a fight out from under her during negotiations.
No I think Ryan touched on the real problem that faces all of boxing. Its a business. The business men want to protect their business. But business or not, Ryan, you have put your word on this fight that the judges will be neutral. So your word and the word of the WIBA will also be judged at the fight. Looking at the business end of things I often wonder just who the sanctioning bodies would want to win. I think it would be to the sanctioning body's best business interest that the promoters fighter wins.
Valentina is strong but seems to have a habit of punching in then grabbing on. it worked good in mma and works good for some boxers too. If I remember correctly Merdjenovich did a lot of hanging on to Ann but she still pulled off the upset.
Allan
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Post by Jason Ozuma on Dec 4, 2011 1:47:37 GMT -5
It looks like Mary Mcgee is fighting Valentina in January, I believe that Valentina will literally smash Mary to pieces because Valentina is as active Holly Holm when it comes to muay thai and combat sports and she has a deadly punch, I would not be suprised if she kos mary, the sad thing is that it wont get much coverage down there
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Post by Jason Ozuma on Dec 19, 2011 15:43:28 GMT -5
Mary Mcgee vs Valentina Schevchenko will be the fight that shows if Valentina can fight with the big girls and beat Kina Malpartida I believe either the promoter or Valentina wants to fight kina Malpartida, its relly hard to tell if she is serious about boxing or muay thai boxing but one thing I pretty sure is that Valentina will win against Mary but will it be by Tko or by Unanimous decision! I dont believe that this fight will have neutral judges, just my opinon no offense Ryan but I dont see it! Valentina hits with flurries which is similer to Kristy follmar, an Mary Mcgee barely won that fight against her an Kristy was rusty, now this will be the toughest fight for Mary Mcgee, I will be very shocked if she can beat Valentina who is energetic an not rusty, not rusty at all, Her tkoing Nery Rincon is just obvious elcomercio.pe/deportes/1347826/noticia-lo-kina-valentina-shevchenko-buscara-titulo-mundial-boxeo |
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Post by Aldo Adamo on Dec 19, 2011 22:07:36 GMT -5
Valentina Shevchenko vs. Nerys Rincón
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Post by Jason Ozuma on Dec 19, 2011 22:55:16 GMT -5
Mary Mcgee vs Valentina Schevchenko will be the fight that shows if Valentina can fight with the big girls and beat Kina Malpartida I believe either the promoter or Valentina wants to fight kina Malpartida, its relly hard to tell if she is serious about boxing or muay thai boxing but one thing I pretty sure is that Valentina will win against Mary but will it be by Tko or by Unanimous decision! I dont believe that this fight will have neutral judges, just my opinon no offense Ryan but I dont see it! Valentina hits with flurries which is similer to Kristy follmar, an Mary Mcgee barely won that fight against her an Kristy was rusty, now this will be the toughest fight for Mary Mcgee, I will be very shocked if she can beat Valentina who is energetic an not rusty, not rusty at all, Her tkoing Nery Rincon is just obvious elcomercio.pe/deportes/1347826/noticia-lo-kina-valentina-shevchenko-buscara-titulo-mundial-boxeoI forgot to mention that if Kina Malpartida is fighting against Hyo Min kim on February 25, Kina will destroy Hyo min kim and also If i were Valentina, I still would not underestimate Kina because Valentina hasnt still fought anyone yet |
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