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Post by longjab on Feb 17, 2011 14:15:02 GMT -5
Folks,
Maria Lindberg and Emily Klinefelter both have something common now - they both had serious brain bleed injuries, Lindberg in 1999 when she was fighting as an amateur and now Klinefelter in her recent and last professional fight of her career against Christina Ruiz, as per her own admission.
Now, I don't blame Klinefelter one bit for hanging her gloves up at this point, being that she nearly died, but what I find fascinating is how Lindberg has managed to not only continue her amateur career but also start her professional boxing career, having seemingly recovered fully from her injury from 12 years ago and medically cleared to box in Germany, despite the fact she has been barred from boxing in Sweden and the U.S.
Does anyone have any input on this and is it possible that Emily Klinefelter could conceivably box again, if she is medically cleared to box in the U.S. or anywhere else in the world?
This is somewhat interesting, even if it is somewhat scary.
Longjab
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Post by TD on Feb 17, 2011 15:11:10 GMT -5
Longjab-- totally agreed, Ms.Garside fought the fight of the year and IMO, is fighter of the year. No one else is close. To go into the Champ's backyard, kick her butt, drop her and leave with the Champ's belt-- dammm, that's legend material!
MS. GARSIDE, TAKE A LONG BOW AND ENJOY ANOTHER ROUND OF WELL DESERVED APPLAUSE!
It was also a great event for Canadian boxing. They are vastly under-rated, seldom appreciated BUT always come into a fight with a real ferocity.
As the old timers would say, THEY'RE HUNGRY FIGHTERS. ( the hungry fighter was a fan delight and the home town fighters re-occuring nightmare and in an ironic twist, the better conditioned fighter)
TD
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Post by Jason Ozuma on Feb 18, 2011 8:04:07 GMT -5
Longjab-- totally agreed, Ms.Garside fought the fight of the year and IMO, is fighter of the year. No one else is close. To go into the Champ's backyard, kick her butt, drop her and leave with the Champ's belt-- dammm, that's legend material! MS. GARSIDE, TAKE A LONG BOW AND ENJOY ANOTHER ROUND OF WELL DESERVED APPLAUSE! It was also a great event for Canadian boxing. They are vastly under-rated, seldom appreciated BUT always come into a fight with a real ferocity. As the old timers would say, THEY'RE HUNGRY FIGHTERS. ( the hungry fighter was a fan delight and the home town fighters re-occuring nightmare and in an ironic twist, the better conditioned fighter) TD Canda I believe could be come a good spot for boxing period. Hagar Finer fought Julia Sahin in Canda, Mayerlin Rivas fought in Canada, Canada has a good economy and many great female fighters are from Canada, Jessica rakocy, Garside, Garbatt, Kara Ro and many more. I hope that Garside can fight Kuehune, that would be interesting. |
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Post by Jason Ozuma on Feb 18, 2011 8:22:41 GMT -5
Folks, Maria Lindberg and Emily Klinefelter both have something common now - they both had serious brain bleed injuries, Lindberg in 1999 when she was fighting as an amateur and now Klinefelter in her recent and last professional fight of her career against Christina Ruiz, as per her own admission. Now, I don't blame Klinefelter one bit for hanging her gloves up at this point, being that she nearly died, but what I find fascinating is how Lindberg has managed to not only continue her amateur career but also start her professional boxing career, having seemingly recovered fully from her injury from 12 years ago and medically cleared to box in Germany, despite the fact she has been barred from boxing in Sweden and the U.S. Does anyone have any input on this and is it possible that Emily Klinefelter could conceivably box again, if she is medically cleared to box in the U.S. or anywhere else in the world? This is somewhat interesting, even if it is somewhat scary. Longjab I admit that I wanted Klinefelter to fight a good oponent but Christina Ruiz is in the superbantamweight and Klinefelter is in the bantamweight?? Also I believe that the only person at fault is Klinefelter coach and team for not calling the fight and the referee, I saw the photos of Klinefelter and she looked bad, really bad. I agree with yall, if Klinefelter wanted to retire, its impossible to be angry at her especially in that situation. The Maria Lindberg situation is really stupid, Cecilia B actually mention that she would not fight Lindberg because of that, I think Maria needs to go to the boxing commission and get some doctors to check her out and check and see if she is at risk or not, if she has a risk then do let her box but if she doesnt have a problem then let her box, so far she seems to be all right, so what is the problem with Us and Sweden boxing commission that is the question Maria and her team need to solve immediately. |
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Post by Rita Figueroa on Apr 4, 2011 16:46:03 GMT -5
Hanging up the Gloves is never an easy decision, but after having an injury that required brain surgery, the decision to fight again would probably be a harder one.
I think you'd first have to get the details on the extent of the surgery. Were plates/screws used to reattached the skull, or was a plate used in place of the skull? What are the risks of taking punches on the plate.
Once a person has been thru this type of injury - the decision NOT to fight again seems to be the only logical decision.
I can tell you from my own experience - I would love to spar - every day I am at the gym I miss it, but I won't. I would not put my family and friends thru the stress/concern, not to mention I would never be able go in there 100% ready to take any punches without fear of a re-bleed or issue with plates etc...
That being said - I wish Emily all the best with whatever she does and hope she stays involved with the sport and continued health to Maria Lindberg.
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Post by Rick Scharmberg on Apr 5, 2011 5:58:10 GMT -5
Hanging up the Gloves is never an easy decision, but after having an injury that required brain surgery, the decision to fight again would probably be a harder one. I think you'd first have to get the details on the extent of the surgery. Were plates/screws used to reattached the skull, or was a plate used in place of the skull? What are the risks of taking punches on the plate. Once a person has been thru this type of injury - the decision NOT to fight again seems to be the only logical decision. I can tell you from my own experience - I would love to spar - every day I am at the gym I miss it, but I won't. I would not put my family and friends thru the stress/concern, not to mention I would never be able go in there 100% ready to take any punches without fear of a re-bleed or issue with plates etc... That being said - I wish Emily all the best with whatever she does and hope she stays involved with the sport and continued health to Maria Lindberg. Great feedback, Rita. Thank you for sharing. |
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Post by Jason Ozuma on Apr 5, 2011 9:24:28 GMT -5
Hanging up the Gloves is never an easy decision, but after having an injury that required brain surgery, the decision to fight again would probably be a harder one. I think you'd first have to get the details on the extent of the surgery. Were plates/screws used to reattached the skull, or was a plate used in place of the skull? What are the risks of taking punches on the plate. Once a person has been thru this type of injury - the decision NOT to fight again seems to be the only logical decision. I can tell you from my own experience - I would love to spar - every day I am at the gym I miss it, but I won't. I would not put my family and friends thru the stress/concern, not to mention I would never be able go in there 100% ready to take any punches without fear of a re-bleed or issue with plates etc... That being said - I wish Emily all the best with whatever she does and hope she stays involved with the sport and continued health to Maria Lindberg. best wishes to you rita but Maria is still boxing and very active but she hasn't been cleared by America and other countries to be able to box in their country. She boxes in only in Germany I believe. |
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Post by Esteban Erik Stipnieks on Apr 5, 2011 21:20:14 GMT -5
First of all what happened Emily was criminal on my site www.ausaboxing.com/main.html I uncovered all the disgusting behavior by the Iowa boxing commission. Christina Ruiz flew in that day and had less then 2 hours recover from the travel. No ambulance on site. Lets just say read the articles lots of wrong doing. Including the Iowa boxing commission losing score cards...and then losing gloves making Ruiz pay for them. Chriistina RUiz was almost not paid. It should NOT have happened I point out the details. |
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Post by Rita Figueroa on Apr 6, 2011 12:56:24 GMT -5
The issues with the Commission is another discussion - trust me - I've had issues with the Illinois Commission as well. Regardless of the events leading up to and after the fight, the injury occurred and there is no changing that. The discussion here is regarding a fighter getting back in the ring after this type of injury.
I am not familiar with Maria's injury, and hope she continues her career without further incident. I hope Emily continues to heal and recover and continues to add to this sport, although in a different capacity.
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Post by Esteban Erik Stipnieks on Apr 6, 2011 14:11:24 GMT -5
THe point with Emily's injury is the fact it was preventable for reasons I highlighted in the site. The Iowa Commission which was sanctioned by the ABC violated multiple rules. Christina Ruiz was placed in a position where the only way she could win the fight was to....two score cards dissappeared into thin air and the daily Iowan reported DESPITE 3 knockdowns ruis was only ahead by one point. THat doctor that was ringside had no business ringside with his disciplinary record the fight should have been stopped sooner had it been Emily might still be fighitng.
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Post by Jason Ozuma on Apr 6, 2011 15:04:13 GMT -5
First of all what happened Emily was criminal on my site www.ausaboxing.com/main.html I uncovered all the disgusting behavior by the Iowa boxing commission. Christina Ruiz flew in that day and had less then 2 hours recover from the travel. No ambulance on site. Lets just say read the articles lots of wrong doing. Including the Iowa boxing commission losing score cards...and then losing gloves making Ruiz pay for them. Chriistina RUiz was almost not paid. It should NOT have happened I point out the details. Wow I didn't know that happened, I would think that the Iowa boxing commission and the promoter would be to blame for this incident. Also their are boxing lawyers and couldn't Ruiz counter sue for making her pay for the gloves and stuff? |
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Post by Esteban Erik Stipnieks on Apr 6, 2011 15:48:48 GMT -5
The cost of the gloves is not worth the lawsuit. I put the link on Sue Fox's facebook page she did not run it off her website. I remember getting the email about an ambulance not being their another boxing observer on facebook said "HOly (explitive delted)" Its sad for both fighters my anger was hot as I found out more and phone calls with the commission got me more angry. This was preventable.
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Post by Jason Ozuma on Apr 7, 2011 17:10:43 GMT -5
The cost of the gloves is not worth the lawsuit. I put the link on Sue Fox's facebook page she did not run it off her website. I remember getting the email about an ambulance not being their another boxing observer on facebook said "HOly (explitive delted)" Its sad for both fighters my anger was hot as I found out more and phone calls with the commission got me more angry. This was preventable. I hate to say this but I was wondering this but wasnt Rola el halba shooting sort of preventable?? I mean everyone on the boxing German front sorta of knew that Rola's father was a lose cannon, in both cases with Emily Klinefelter and Rola, I blame the boxing commission and the promoter. Emily Klinefelter need to fight tough competition but someone actually in her weight class, Christina was not, she was a super bantamweight, even though Emily is a talented amateur, but on the pro scene she rarely face true challenging opponents and their is a difference between Lakeysha Williams and Christina Ruiz lol. In the situation with Rola, the should have put a ban/restraining order on the father from showing up or even house arrest and take away the phone. German society has advanced technology that could have made this simple and possible, i am just surprise no one did it. |
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Post by Esteban Erik Stipnieks on Apr 7, 2011 21:53:01 GMT -5
Check my editorial their is laundry list of what Iowa did wrong.
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Post by Dee Williams on Apr 8, 2011 4:46:33 GMT -5
I hate to say this but I was wondering this but wasnt Rola el halba shooting sort of preventable?? I mean everyone on the boxing German front sorta of knew that Rola's father was a lose cannon In the situation with Rola, the should have put a ban/restraining order on the father from showing up or even house arrest and take away the phone. German society has advanced technology that could have made this simple and possible, i am just surprise no one did it. WBAN has an interview with Uwe Betker giving more information on this shooting www.womenboxing.com/NEWS2011/news040711interview.htm |
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