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Post by TD on May 28, 2009 12:12:55 GMT -5
I just read the challenge and response made by the promoter of AND OR BY Sarah Pucek to fight a championship bout with Brooke "No Mercey" Dierdorff.
Amazing, they ( whoever the offer came from) offered Brooke $1200 to bring her title to fight in Sarah's hometown...excuse my GERMAN but that SUCKS.
Here's a solution for both Brooke and the Promoter, WINNER TAKE ALL...Sarah's purse is made public knowledge as Brooke's has been, the ladies fight for it all. This way " a cash stressed " promoter can at least find a way to promote and produce a title bout.
Advice to Brooke...you have to win by knockout in THAT kinda of backyard.
TD
PS to Jason...nothing changes in Boxing...the people with power rubber stamp the scams, homers, set ups and other BS by blindly rating those events as equal to REAL HONEST ONES. THAT IS THE BS I RANT AND RAVE ABOUT HERE.
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Post by Dee Williams on May 28, 2009 15:28:08 GMT -5
Sarah Pucek is from Fort Langley, British Columbia. That's a town in CANADA, about 45 min up the Fraser Valley from Vancouver. They speak English and French in Canada, not German, though French won't make you that popular in BC, it's definitely BRITISH Columbia.
Vancouver is nobody's idea of a boxing mecca. There may be about two boxing cards a year in Richmond, BC, but if there has been a women's fight in a ring in Vancouver in the last few years it was probably in a movie, as a major industry of that part of the world is impersonating the US NorthWest for film-making.
BC boxers like Garside and Pucek have to hit the road pretty much every time to fight, like Garside moved to Ontario to train with Margaret (Sidoroff) Canty. Even in Ontario where there is a little more pro boxing overall the pickings are slim (ask Sandy Tsagouris, that's why she signed with CES). Jessica Rakoczy left Ontario for Vegas to get closer to the boxing scene.
Pucek is crossing the border to fight in the US every time, she's had to try to build up a following here by beating Americans in our own country. Now Tacoma's not that far from Vancouver but the boxing scene in BC is not California and Sarah Pucek will have a hard time building a pro career out of Fort Langley.
Now cheap is still cheap and obviously $1200 isn't enough for s title fight whatever else is on the table.
Winner-take-all was first talked about by Lucia Rijker when she was trying to get Christy Martin to stop questioning her gender and start talking about a fight, but so far I don't know anyone who's taken it. One issue is that all female boxers at least want to cover their out of pocket expenses, this isn't anyone's day job so a better plan may be a hefty bonus for the winner after the expenses have been covered first, at least,
Of course Canadians do have an advantage if they get hurt because their medical coverage is guaranteed (just kidding) but let's not call the US their backyard, please. Sarah has had to earn her chops in Washington state.
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Post by Jason Ozuma on May 28, 2009 15:38:52 GMT -5
Sarah Pucek is from Fort Langley, British Columbia. That's a town in CANADA, about 45 min up the Fraser Valley from Vancouver. They speak English and French in Canada, not German, though French won't make you that popular in BC, it's definitely BRITISH Columbia. Vancouver is nobody's idea of a boxing mecca. There may be about two boxing cards a year in Richmond, BC, but if there has been a women's fight in a ring in Vancouver in the last few years it was probably in a movie, as a major industry of that part of the world is impersonating the US NorthWest for film-making. BC boxers like Garside and Pucek have to hit the road pretty much every time to fight, like Garside moved to Ontario to train with Margaret (Sidoroff) Canty. Even in Ontario where there is a little more pro boxing overall the pickings are slim (ask Sandy Tsagouris, that's why she signed with CES). Jessica Rakoczy left Ontario for Vegas to get closer to the boxing scene. Pucek is crossing the border to fight in the US every time, she's had to try to build up a following here by beating Americans in our own country. Now Tacoma's not that far from Vancouver but the boxing scene in BC is not California and Sarah Pucek will have a hard time building a pro career out of Fort Langley. Now cheap is still cheap and obviously $1200 isn't enough for s title fight whatever else is on the table. Winner-take-all was first talked about by Lucia Rijker when she was trying to get Christy Martin to stop questioning her gender and start talking about a fight, but so far I don't know anyone who's taken it. One issue is that all female boxers at least want to cover their out of pocket expenses, this isn't anyone's day job so a better plan may be a hefty bonus for the winner after the expenses have been covered first, at least, Of course Canadians do have an advantage if they get hurt because their medical coverage is guaranteed (just kidding) but let's not call the US their backyard, please. Sarah has had to earn her chops in Washington state. Thanks for explaining dee, but what do you mean by her chops in Washington state?? |
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Post by Dee Williams on May 28, 2009 16:02:41 GMT -5
I mean that Pucek has had to start her career by convincing an American (WA) promoter to put a Canadian boxer on their cards. She does not have a "hometown promoter", she's having to carve out a "home away from home" in the next country down. Like Clampitt, like Rakoczy ... except she can still drive home.
But here's a thought - if you have to show your passport at the international border to get to your fight, you're not fighting in your home town.
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Post by Jason Ozuma on May 28, 2009 22:23:42 GMT -5
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Post by Dee Williams on May 29, 2009 11:30:21 GMT -5
I just read the challenge and response made by the promoter of AND OR BY Sarah Pucek to fight a championship bout with Brooke "No Mercey" Dierdorff. Amazing, they ( whoever the offer came from) offered Brooke $1200 to bring her title to fight in Sarah's hometown...excuse my GERMAN but that SUCKS. Now cheap is still cheap and obviously $1200 isn't enough for s title fight whatever else is on the table. Looking back at what Team Pucek actually posted on WBAN, I see that they were originally trying to find someone for a 6-rounder, NOT a title fight, anyway. Unfortunately $200 a round is still par for the course in non-title women's boxing at small US venues and that is not going to change much during a deep economic recession. So more to the point than Tom De Napoli bashing who's a "homer" and who's not, may be how we get through economic hard times like this without killing what is left of the sport in the US. Some fights may have to go on at low purse rates for while just to keep boxers in the ring at all. But being rude to our Canadian neighbors by calling them "homers" when they come here to fight isn't likely to help, whatever else you may think about promoters and going rates. It looks like it was a big red herring for TD to say this was a "championship bout" offer. From what was actually posted on WBAN, that was never in the cards. |
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Post by Jason Ozuma on May 29, 2009 13:23:25 GMT -5
I just read the challenge and response made by the promoter of AND OR BY Sarah Pucek to fight a championship bout with Brooke "No Mercey" Dierdorff. Amazing, they ( whoever the offer came from) offered Brooke $1200 to bring her title to fight in Sarah's hometown...excuse my GERMAN but that SUCKS. Now cheap is still cheap and obviously $1200 isn't enough for s title fight whatever else is on the table. Looking back at what Team Pucek actually posted on WBAN, I see that they were originally trying to find someone for a 6-rounder, NOT a title fight, anyway. Unfortunately $200 a round is still par for the course in non-title women's boxing at small US venues and that is not going to change much during a deep economic recession. So more to the point than Tom De Napoli bashing who's a "homer" and who's not, may be how we get through economic hard times like this without killing what is left of the sport in the US. Some fights may have to go on at low purse rates for while just to keep boxers in the ring at all. But being rude to our Canadian neighbors by calling them "homers" when they come here to fight isn't likely to help, whatever else you may think about promoters and going rates. It looks like it was a big red herring for TD to say this was a "championship bout" offer. From what was actually posted on WBAN, that was never in the cards. TD probably didn't mean it, he just runs his mouth..thats all and forgets everything that happens afterwards, me i don't pay it much mind unless its something that interest me..... First of all brooke shouldn't be a champion she lost shout outs in everymatch with real opponents. Second i don't understand how brooke got so many fights for the title and good fighters have missed their oppourtunity and Brooke manages to grab it... i don't know if it is true but i heard she was a dirty fighter and that she headbutted Mia in her rematch which led to Mia to bleed alot... of course i counldn't find a video to back my claim up... I think Sarah Pucek just like Deidroff are good fighters but "meaningful fight" was the term that Sarah's team used and I don't see this as a meaningful fight....does this seem like a meaningful fight?? |
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Post by Dee Williams on May 29, 2009 13:48:32 GMT -5
I think Sarah Pucek just like Deidroff are good fighters but "meaningful fight" was the term that Sarah's team used and I don't see this as a meaningful fight....does this seem like a meaningful fight?? It would definitely be meaningful for Pucek if she won it Brooke is ranked #6 in the division by WBAN, while Sarah is unranked. Sarah would gain some credibility with a win over Brooke, but not much changes if it came out the other way round. I think that and the $1200 purse being offered pretty much explains everything said so far on WBAN. |
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Post by Jason Ozuma on May 29, 2009 13:52:16 GMT -5
I think Sarah Pucek just like Deidroff are good fighters but "meaningful fight" was the term that Sarah's team used and I don't see this as a meaningful fight....does this seem like a meaningful fight?? It would definitely be meaningful for Pucek if she won it Brooke is ranked #6 in the division by WBAN, while Sarah is unranked. Sarah would gain some credibility with a win over Brooke, but not much changes if it came out the other way round. I think that and the $1200 purse being offered pretty much explains everything said so far on WBAN. i guess so... credibility is something good to seek after all and every fighter should try to have it.. but fighters building there records off of stick fighters or fighters jumping up the rank is what bothers me... |
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Post by Jason Ozuma on May 29, 2009 14:15:01 GMT -5
Jenna Shivers vs Sarah Pucek??
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Post by Dee Williams on May 29, 2009 14:51:47 GMT -5
i don't know if it is true but i heard she was a dirty fighter and that she headbutted Mia in her rematch which led to Mia to bleed alot... of course i counldn't find a video to back my claim up... There is a message board thread about this matter at Cyber Boxing Zone www.cyberboxingzone.com/cbzforum/showthread.php?t=8628But I would add a big word of caution - the person who started that thread calls himself "Jayre" and he reads exactly like the "JR" we had here for a number of years. If it's the same person, he was a complete Mia St. John sycophant, she could do no wrong in his eyes. I asked him why he refused to show his full name in this Forum, as he was also prone to contentious posts, but he was one of the few who would not agree to put his name where his mouth was. Shortly after we had an argument about this, he voluntarily left this Forum (I dd not ask him to, he just deleted his own account here) but I would give you 99% odds that CBZ's "Jayre" and our former "JR" are one and the same. Given his unswerving allegiance to the idea that Mia is one of the stars of our sport who has been badly mistreated by the rest of us, I would take his side of the thread at CBZ with a big serving of salt. And give Brooke full credit for her win in Mexico just like the judges and referee did. |
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Post by Jason Ozuma on May 29, 2009 15:26:19 GMT -5
Hold up wait a minute i think Brooke is a great fighter but i only question why she had some many title shots when other fighters don't. Deidroff is an action packed brawler and with brawling sometimes you end up headbutting Every fighter has flaws and great things about themselves.. all i wanted was honest commentary on Mia vs Brooke rematch thats all not someone's opinons however also judges have been wrong..and if mia hasn't said anything about this fight then i will leave it in the dust... i like to see videos and look at commentary and coments on the fight so that i can see what probably happened at the fight why because i remember reading Akondaye vs Wang Ya Nan and Wang Ya nan as records says. However I looked at commentary and it stated that in the later round Akondaye slowed down but when i found the video on the internet (the same video I posted here) i found out that Akondaye didn't slow down she fought with the same pace and looked like she won the fight...(so that is why i posted the video here to get other opinon to see if I were wrong but rick agreed with me..) All i want is just to make sure fights are correct, percise and fair and good for fans I found something take a look at this.... both page 1 and 2 of this fight... viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewTaggedPhotos&friendID=330944325&page=1 |
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Post by Dee Williams on May 29, 2009 15:55:33 GMT -5
Yes that link is part of the thread on CBZ. And its home page is Mia's myspace page. The photos in it are selected by, and commented by, either Mia herself or someone who maintains her myspace page. As you said before, video is needed. |
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Post by TD on May 29, 2009 17:02:16 GMT -5
Looking back at what Team Pucek actually posted on WBAN, I see that they were originally trying to find someone for a 6-rounder, NOT a title fight, anyway. Unfortunately $200 a round is still par for the course in non-title women's boxing at small US venues and that is not going to change much during a deep economic recession. So more to the point than Tom De Napoli bashing who's a "homer" and who's not, may be how we get through economic hard times like this without killing what is left of the sport in the US. Some fights may have to go on at low purse rates for while just to keep boxers in the ring at all. But being rude to our Canadian neighbors by calling them "homers" when they come here to fight isn't likely to help, whatever else you may think about promoters and going rates. It looks like it was a big red herring for TD to say this was a "championship bout" offer. From what was actually posted on WBAN, that was never in the cards. TD probably didn't mean it, he just runs his mouth..thats all and forgets everything that happens afterwards, me i don't pay it much mind unless its something that interest me..... First of all brooke shouldn't be a champion she lost shout outs in everymatch with real opponents. Second i don't understand how brooke got so many fights for the title and good fighters have missed their oppourtunity and Brooke manages to grab it... i don't know if it is true but i heard she was a dirty fighter and that she headbutted Mia in her rematch which led to Mia to bleed alot... of course i counldn't find a video to back my claim up... I think Sarah Pucek just like Deidroff are good fighters but "meaningful fight" was the term that Sarah's team used and I don't see this as a meaningful fight....does this seem like a meaningful fight?? Brooke was the one that referred to a CHAMPIONSHIP offer, because, she is a champion. Now if its NOT sanctioned or was NOT offered as a TITLE bout, I will bet you $2 that IF Brooke signed to fight 10 rounds for $1200, the promoter would magically find the sanctioning fees. Irregardless, the point BROOKE was making; SHE'S A CHAMPION, TREAT HER WITH THAT LEVEL OF RESPECT. I also read the response from Sarah's manager explaining how the recession was hurting boxing promotions etc...but he didn't reveal WHAT SARAH would make, did he? Bottom line, this kind of stuff goes on all the time. PUT THE ENTIRE PURSE UP FOR THE WINNER...now IF ANY PROMOTER, EVEN THE ONES WHO ARE DEAD, CAN'T MAKE A BIG DEAL ( GATE) OUT OF THIS, THEY SHOULDN'T BE PROMOTING PERIOD. WINNER TAKE ALL...this tells the fans one thing---THIS FIGHT IS ALL THE WAY ON! But I do think training expenses should also be paid to both fighters so at least the loser walks away with something. Remember this is PRIZE FIGHTING...BELTS are PRIZES and PURSES ARE BIGGER PRIZES but so is PRIDE...you want the Champ to walk into someone else's "venue" ( owned by someone else's promoter) then PUT UP A PRIZE WORTH FIGHTING OVER...if not, cancel the fight due to the recession. TD |
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Post by Dave Allison on May 29, 2009 21:16:30 GMT -5
Just to clear the record.
I am the trainer/manager of Sarah Pucek and am just trying to keep her busy. I make no offers it is the promoters matchmaker that has made the offer.
the offer was not for a title fight it was for a 6 round non title fight. We had a fight with Merced Nunez set and Nunez decided to retire from boxing.
The Emerald Queens match maker asked me who we could fight and I gave them some options and at the top of the list was Brooke Dierdorff.
Simply because she has been active and stated she would fight Sarah. It is just that simple. As for the home town stuff. Well it is uninformed opinion with no foundation.
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Post by Jason Ozuma on May 29, 2009 22:13:51 GMT -5
Just to clear the record. I am the trainer/manager of Sarah Pucek and am just trying to keep her busy. I make no offers it is the promoters matchmaker that has made the offer. the offer was not for a title fight it was for a 6 round non title fight. We had a fight with Merced Nunez set and Nunez decided to retire from boxing. The Emerald Queens match maker asked me who we could fight and I gave them some options and at the top of the list was Brooke Dierdorff. Simply because she has been active and stated she would fight Sarah. It is just that simple. As for the home town stuff. Well it is uninformed opinion with no foundation. welcome to the group dave... |
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Post by Dee Williams on May 30, 2009 8:24:08 GMT -5
Tom - The actual principals may now be on their way to sorting this all out. The notions that this was to be a title fight, and that Pucek was to be fighting in her "home town" were both incorrect. It wasn't any of the principals who said either of these, you turned what was actually said by them into different "information" that was misleading. As BOTH teams are also now registered to post in this Forum and can make their own cases directly here if they want to, they do not need to be paraphrased by or interpreted by anyone, not by you, not by me. They can speak for themselves. As for the asymmetric purse idea (winner takes MOST of the purse) in general, we basically agree and I'm glad to see you recognize that both boxers need something every time to make it viable ... we've been over this ground before in this Forum (and others before it), but newer members may not know that so it's worth saying again. It's a good idea to give a bigger payout to the winner rather than to a "homer" just for being that, and especially in these bad economic times it may be a good time to raise the idea again. One issue is that all female boxers at least want to cover their out of pocket expenses, this isn't anyone's day job so a better plan may be a hefty bonus for the winner after the expenses have been covered first, at least. But I do think training expenses should also be paid to both fighters so at least the loser walks away with something. If you add travel expenses for both fighters to your plan then we're (almost) in complete agreement for once. Let's enjoy that moment, scary though it may be! Have a nice weekend. Dee |
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Post by TD on May 30, 2009 13:13:26 GMT -5
Tom - The actual principals may now be on their way to sorting this all out. The notions that this was to be a title fight, and that Pucek was to be fighting in her "home town" were both incorrect. It wasn't any of the principals who said either of these, you turned what was actually said by them into different "information" that was misleading. As BOTH teams are also now registered to post in this Forum and can make their own cases directly here if they want to, they do not need to be paraphrased by or interpreted by anyone, not by you, not by me. They can speak for themselves. OK DEE, WHO SAID THIS: (and pay attention to the back yard part...) "Next I have no problem with fighting Sarah Pucek in her back yard. Everyone who knows me will tell you that.. I don't back down from any fight obviously. But, if your going to try to make a name off of my name to get heard of, at least have the money to pay me to come and fight you..Not some ridiculous offer you would pay a pro debuter like $1200. I don't like to talk about money but when your going to sit there and call out another fighter that is the WBC International Champion to try to get recognition and make a name by fighting them don't offer them what you would pay a pro debuter to fight." "I will not stoop down to $1200 to help you out to try to make a name for yourself.. So bottom line I would love to come and fight you Sarah Pucek in your back yard but not for $1200 I'm not. I'm a champion." So don't misrepresent what I have said that someone else has said. Not the exact same verbiage but the same intent. The poster would have correctly ID'd BROOKE via her title even if it was a non-title fight. Meanwhile, THEY should sort it out, but correctly. BROOKE is the Champion. Why would anybody fight her and call that a non-title bout or pay her a non-title purse? They don't want to pay a CHAMPION'S PURSE or a sanctioning fee ...worse, its public negotiation which is obviously one-sided as Brooke's purse at $1200 is absurd, recession or not. Is Sarah getting paid less than $1200...? Maybe we'll find out. Probably NOT. So the solution, winner take all makes for a RECESSION BEATING BOUT that even the dullest promoter can turn that into a gate building sensation. Fans totally love the phrase, WINNER TAKE ALL. Meanwhile, I don't agree with you, you agreed with me. LOL. TD Note - to make it clear who said what, I have closed the quote block on Tom De Napoli's post - everything else is exactly as he posted - Dee |
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Post by Dee Williams on May 31, 2009 5:56:47 GMT -5
Tom, Brooke was talking about a $1200 fight in "Sarah's back yard", YOU twisted that into a title fight in Sarah's "home town", so YOU could cast Sarah as a HOMER who might get a bigger take than Brooke. Saying Washington State is in the "back yard" of Fort Langley, BC means only that the venue is nearer Fort Langley than Chicago for example. If Brooke wants to add to what she said, she can. but YOU turned what she said about proximity into your full-fledged HOMER rant against Sarah (plus gratuitous sideswipes at me, which is why I spoke up and tried to explain where Sarah is actually from). You twisted what was actually said on WBAN into I just read the challenge and response made by the promoter of AND OR BY Sarah Pucek to fight a championship bout with Brooke "No Mercey" Dierdorff. The "championship bout" part was a distortion of what the $1200 purse issue was about and your HOMER rant, cloned from things you used to say about Regina Halmich or Holly Holm, was unjustified. When YOU say "pardon my GERMAN" it's clear what tack you are on and what associations you were trying to make - uncalled for in this case, There was no "championship bout". Brooke said that her title would add recognition to any bout so more than a standard six-round payout would be appropriate - you manipulated that to say that the $1200 was being offered for a championship bout;. You can leave it to these people to sort this 6-rounder opportunity out - if they can - without adding distortions ... which only stir things up in the Forum unless people go to WBAN to read the originals, or the parties come here to point out what you are misrepresenting, like Dave Allison did. Sarah Pucek is a rising Canadian pro newbie whose pro opportunities are going to be mostly in our country not in her home town. Brooke is at a cusp in her career where her title win over Mia lets her make more of a name for herself. Brooke doesn't need a distorter exaggerator to make her case for her. nor does Sarah deserve your full blown homer rant just for trying to get some recognition fights in the US. |
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Post by Dee Williams on May 31, 2009 15:35:06 GMT -5
Why would anybody fight her and call that a non-title bout or pay her a non-title purse? Perhaps because what they are being offered by the promoter IS a 6-round slot? YOU invented the "championship bout" part of this. Is Sarah getting paid less than $1200...? I have heard that Pucek was willing to accept a significantly SMALLER share of a combined purse than would have gone to Dierdorff. Which would make sense because this fight could do more for her if she wins than it could do for Dierdorff if she wins. The Canadians sound like a team that just want to fight, while Brooke wants to make the most of the extra visibility that comes from beating Mia St. John in Mexico for the WBC International belt. Both understandable goals for who stands to gain what from this fight if they win it. Here's an irony ... Dierdorff has posted on WBAN that she still does not know who Pucek is, but by the time both teams are done there a lot more people will know who Sarah is than did before ... even if Brooke still says she doesn't  My guess is all this may help Pucek get some other fight, and that's about it. |
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Post by TD on May 31, 2009 21:28:21 GMT -5
Is Sarah getting paid less than $1200...? I have heard that Pucek was willing to accept a significantly SMALLER share of a combined purse than would have gone to Dierdorff. Which would make sense because this fight could do more for her if she wins than it could do for Dierdorff if she wins. The Canadians sound like a team that just want to fight, while Brooke wants to make the most of the "bump" in her visibility that comes from beating Mia St. John in Mexico for the WBC International belt. Both perfectly understandable goals in terms of who stands to gain what from this fight if they win it, but here's an irony ... Dierdorff has posted on WBAN that she still does not know who Pucek is, but by the time both teams are done there a lot more people will know who Sarah is than did before ... even if Brooke still says she doesn't My guess is all this may help Pucek get some other fight, and that's about it. Dee...I hate to have to explain things to you....but I will. Who is the DRAW on the card? Who is tied in with the promoter? Sarah is tied in with the promoter and if she is getting TOP dollar VS whoever her opponent is, she is the DRAW. Now, how does that sit with ANY Champion? Could be OK if the Champion is making a decent purse, and NO its not bad or unusual or odd or greedy for ANY Champ to demand MORE. They have the title, they will be identifyied as such on any poster, in any ad for the card EVEN if its NOT a title bout. Try to understand that DEE. A championship belt means something to any fighter and any fighter with one does NOT have to fight for COLD DOG FOOD. $1200 is COLD DOG FOOD. Get that thru your cabeza. You can tell BROOKE would hitch hike to fight any day, but she doesn't have to, she's the champion and you show the champion respect. TD |
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Post by Dee Williams on May 31, 2009 22:14:47 GMT -5
Sarah is tied in with the promoter and if she is getting TOP dollar VS whoever her opponent is, she is the DRAW. "Tied in" is your latest attempt to wheedle something out of this, Tom. There's nothing left here, it's all been said, so stop repeating the obvious and already-gone-over. You inflated the whole thing into a title fight that wasn't, a "home town" that isn't, etc. etc. Pucek pretty much has to fight in the US apart from maybe an occasional chance in the Vancouver area, so how in hell do you expect her to get started as a pro without going through a US promoter? And in that case what would NOT constitute being "tied in" according to you? Would she have to work with a different promoter every single time she fights here, starting from scratch every single time, travel all over the continent instead of trying to get the fights she can in the nearest part of the US to where she lives in Canada? And why? Just so you, the self-appointed Homer Police, won't call her a homer and inflict your whole homer rant on her? She was NOT asking for the top dollar, you are just assuming that because it's probably what you would do if you were her manager. Pucek was NOT fighting in her home town, YOU invented the title fight, and now YOU are inventing or imagining what you say about her share of the take! The real story is on WBAN, not the distorted and imagined version of it you are peddling here, so please stop. www.womenboxing.com/NEWS2009/news052409pucek.htmwww.womenboxing.com/NEWS2009/news052809dierdorff.htm www.womenboxing.com/NEWS2009/news052909pucek.htmwww.womenboxing.com/NEWS2009/news053109dierdorfffinal.htmwww.womenboxing.com/NEWS2009/news060109pucekfinal.htm |
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Post by Dave Allison on Jun 1, 2009 2:52:45 GMT -5
I am Sarah Puceks Trainer/Manager and after spending the last 30 minutes going over all the back and forth about the Pucek-Dierdorff match-up.
The fight was a 6 round fight at the Emerald Queen and the fighters were to get 1200 each.
It was never a title fight in fact the non-title aspect of the fight was highlighted in the offer. The budget was a 6 round fight.
Simple and since Brooke is often stating she will fight anyone anywhere anytime I thought she would take the fight with a "nobody" like Sarah Pucek.
She did not take it as we sort of expected. We hoped she would but thought it was all talk.
Anyway a Vancouver Promoter caught wind of the back and forth and offered Dierdorff 2000 and a trip to Vancouver to fight Pucek July 18 at the Plaza of Nations in Downtown Vancouver.
Brooke's manager took the fight Friday afternoon and it was on.
a couple hours later Brook called me directly and called the fight off now claiming she will not fight in Canada. She asked me if I could revisit the offer at the Emerald Queen.
She did not even inform the Vancouver promoter. He called her manager several times over the weekend and left messages.
Her reply to Wban.com left all of this out.
I am making this offer to Brooke here on the form.
We will fight you at the Emerald Queen June 20. Sarah will do it on these terms.
6 round non-title fight the total purse is $2400
winner 75% ($1800) and 25% ($600) to the loser.
Both Brooke and Sarah work and will miss some work. So this will insure nobody is out of pocket.
I will request The Emerald Queens Promoter make this offer Monday AM
She can get $2000 win or lose at the Vancouver show or the deal I have just offered at the Emerald Queen.
Brooke what is your latest excuse for not taking the fight.
Team Pucek
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Post by Dee Williams on Jun 1, 2009 7:37:54 GMT -5
Dave - thank you for taking the time to wade through the tangle here and state your side of this. Perhaps the best news is that the "buzz" on the internet has helped to get a promoter's attention in Sarah's actual home town. I suggest we all just wait and see if you get an answer now.
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Post by Dee Williams on Jun 2, 2009 8:02:12 GMT -5
I am Sarah Puceks Trainer/Manager and after spending the last 30 minutes going over all the back and forth about the Pucek-Dierdorff match-up. I've now Dee-leted some of the earlier posts here - this thread was getting way too long for its content, and I apologize for contributing to that. There now appear to be two fight offers on the table, one of which IS now in Sarah's home town. So I'll ask - would Sarah go to the Chicago area to fight Brooke if that was also put on the table? |
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Post by Dee Williams on Jun 2, 2009 8:20:49 GMT -5
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Post by teamnomercy on Jun 3, 2009 8:20:46 GMT -5
I am Sarah Puceks Trainer/Manager and after spending the last 30 minutes going over all the back and forth about the Pucek-Dierdorff match-up. The fight was a 6 round fight at the Emerald Queen and the fighters were to get 1200 each. It was never a title fight in fact the non-title aspect of the fight was highlighted in the offer. The budget was a 6 round fight. Simple and since Brooke is often stating she will fight anyone anywhere anytime I thought she would take the fight with a "nobody" like Sarah Pucek. She did not take it as we sort of expected. We hoped she would but thought it was all talk. Anyway a Vancouver Promoter caught wind of the back and forth and offered Dierdorff 2000 and a trip to Vancouver to fight Pucek July 18 at the Plaza of Nations in Downtown Vancouver. Brooke's manager took the fight Friday afternoon and it was on. a couple hours later Brook called me directly and called the fight off now claiming she will not fight in Canada. She asked me if I could revisit the offer at the Emerald Queen. She did not even inform the Vancouver promoter. He called her manager several times over the weekend and left messages. Her reply to Wban.com left all of this out. I am making this offer to Brooke here on the form. We will fight you at the Emerald Queen June 20. Sarah will do it on these terms. 6 round non-title fight the total purse is $2400 winner 75% ($1800) and 25% ($600) to the loser. Both Brooke and Sarah work and will miss some work. So this will insure nobody is out of pocket. I will request The Emerald Queens Promoter make this offer Monday AM She can get $2000 win or lose at the Vancouver show or the deal I have just offered at the Emerald Queen. Brooke what is your latest excuse for not taking the fight. Team Pucek and yet here it is Wednesday and we have still yet to receive a phone call about the offer... who is scared now? you do a lot of talking but don't seem to back up that un-professional trashy mouth of yours... Note - to make it clear who said what, I have closed the quote block on Brooke's post - everything else is exactly as she posted - Dee |
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