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Post by TD on May 19, 2009 11:34:51 GMT -5
Gee, maybe Stay Lo can cancel a night out dancing and step in with Lill Tyson.
Didn't they spar? Ryan, you would know that...?
How bout Menzer? Nah, she doesn't take fights outside a 200 mile radius of her promoters check book.
Who does Sandy want to fight...
TD
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Post by Ryan Wissow on May 19, 2009 22:23:13 GMT -5
they had Belinda Laracuente for this fight with Sandy but the commission turned it down because Belinda has too many losses  it think it wouldve been a good fight! |
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Post by computerrank on May 20, 2009 2:04:58 GMT -5
they had Belinda Laracuente for this fight with Sandy but the commission turned it down because Belinda has too many losses it think it wouldve been a good fight! I cannot follow this decision - as Belinda lost nearly all of her bouts by only small margins on points against the best opponents. She is competitive at top level. This is cynic regarding her achievements and her highly appreciated attitude. |
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Post by Jason Ozuma on May 20, 2009 9:41:20 GMT -5
they had Belinda Laracuente for this fight with Sandy but the commission turned it down because Belinda has too many losses it think it wouldve been a good fight! Ryan who was the commission |
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Post by TD on May 20, 2009 11:18:15 GMT -5
they had Belinda Laracuente for this fight with Sandy but the commission turned it down because Belinda has too many losses it think it wouldve been a good fight! Belinda is a game fighter. But she throws coco-puffs. Lill Tyson throws canned hams. Obvious difference. Stay Lo wouldn't be competitive with Sandy either and I think both of them know that. Sandy needs world class competition as she is the number one Female fighter on the planet today. YES, a huge "title" but rightly so. I watched highlights of her banging Menzer around and had to stop...knowing how badly Sandy was jobbed by der decision. Don't they have any guilt in Germany? They single handley can ruin any perception of fairness in the sport. Uber-Aught-Der-Pukenstein-en-Der-Hosenstein. You fight in Germany and you better bring back the jawbone of your opponent. Period. TD |
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Post by Jason Ozuma on May 20, 2009 14:16:04 GMT -5
they had Belinda Laracuente for this fight with Sandy but the commission turned it down because Belinda has too many losses it think it wouldve been a good fight! Belinda is a game fighter. But she throws coco-puffs. Lill Tyson throws canned hams. Obvious difference. Stay Lo wouldn't be competitive with Sandy either and I think both of them know that. Sandy needs world class competition as she is the number one Female fighter on the planet today. YES, a huge "title" but rightly so. I watched highlights of her banging Menzer around and had to stop...knowing how badly Sandy was jobbed by der decision. Don't they have any guilt in Germany? They single handley can ruin any perception of fairness in the sport. Uber-Aught-Der-Pukenstein-en-Der-Hosenstein. You fight in Germany and you better bring back the jawbone of your opponent. Period. TD Now I admit their are alot o Flaws in Germany boxing but people choose I believe to fight in Germany. And If you chose to fight in germany, you should know what to expect. I also agree that Sandy did beat Ina but sorry to bust your bubble but she is the top but not the best fighter of her weight class. To mean to be the best you had to have fought the rest and Sandy hasn't fought not that many top notch fighters in her class. I wouldn't call Belinda coco puff more like tough strong bucket of nails, she has face more tough opponents than many boxers. Sandy hasn't even face 5 tough top notch boxers. Did you see who she is facing?? Adler the same one that Garside beat and Adler has a title this match will go hands down to Sandy because she and WIBA got a chump holding on to the title. |
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Post by TD on May 20, 2009 18:55:06 GMT -5
Belinda is a game fighter. But she throws coco-puffs. Lill Tyson throws canned hams. Obvious difference. Stay Lo wouldn't be competitive with Sandy either and I think both of them know that. Sandy needs world class competition as she is the number one Female fighter on the planet today. YES, a huge "title" but rightly so. I watched highlights of her banging Menzer around and had to stop...knowing how badly Sandy was jobbed by der decision. Don't they have any guilt in Germany? They single handley can ruin any perception of fairness in the sport. Uber-Aught-Der-Pukenstein-en-Der-Hosenstein. You fight in Germany and you better bring back the jawbone of your opponent. Period. TD Now I admit their are alot o Flaws in Germany boxing but people choose I believe to fight in Germany. And If you chose to fight in germany, you should know what to expect. I also agree that Sandy did beat Ina but sorry to bust your bubble but she is the top but not the best fighter of her weight class. To mean to be the best you had to have fought the rest and Sandy hasn't fought not that many top notch fighters in her class. I wouldn't call Belinda coco puff more like tough strong bucket of nails, she has face more tough opponents than many boxers. Sandy hasn't even face 5 tough top notch boxers. Did you see who she is facing?? Adler the same one that Garside beat and Adler has a title this match will go hands down to Sandy because she and WIBA got a chump holding on to the title. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ NO, totally WRONG. Anywhere YOU fight, should be a fair fight. However, since you know it won't be fair in GERMANY, you have to bang out the german or accept the trash decision. To me, that makes any US fighter a motivated fighter, throw hard and don't stop or go home unhappy. Sandy tried to take out Ina and left her marks. LOL. But in the end, she got a German jobbing. Its a shame her record had to take a homer. But hey, women's boxing is the whipping boy of homers and NOBODY BUT NOBODY SAYS OR DOES ANYTHING ABOUT IT. Hint to DEE. ( dang, just wasted a hint). Totally WRONG to say Sandy hasn't fought anybody, especially right after you recognize she whooped on Ina Menzer. Ina is a HOMER but she is a BANGER. Sure, she'd have a few losses on her record if she fought outside of bratwurst-ville, but the chances of that happening are slim and none. And slim left town eons ago. Don't get me wrong, I respect Belinda, she is a totally game fighter who comes to win. BUT I don't think she has a sizeable punch. I wished she step in, dig in and bang more, but that that is not her technique. Who would you rather watch than Sandy? Seriously, She is THE SPARTAN! TD |
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Post by Jason Ozuma on May 20, 2009 20:06:52 GMT -5
Now I admit their are alot o Flaws in Germany boxing but people choose I believe to fight in Germany. And If you chose to fight in germany, you should know what to expect. I also agree that Sandy did beat Ina but sorry to bust your bubble but she is the top but not the best fighter of her weight class. To mean to be the best you had to have fought the rest and Sandy hasn't fought not that many top notch fighters in her class. I wouldn't call Belinda coco puff more like tough strong bucket of nails, she has face more tough opponents than many boxers. Sandy hasn't even face 5 tough top notch boxers. Did you see who she is facing?? Adler the same one that Garside beat and Adler has a title this match will go hands down to Sandy because she and WIBA got a chump holding on to the title. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ NO, totally WRONG. Anywhere YOU fight, should be a fair fight. However, since you know it won't be fair in GERMANY, you have to bang out the german or accept the trash decision. To me, that makes any US fighter a motivated fighter, throw hard and don't stop or go home unhappy. Sandy tried to take out Ina and left her marks. LOL. But in the end, she got a German jobbing. Its a shame her record had to take a homer. But hey, women's boxing is the whipping boy of homers and NOBODY BUT NOBODY SAYS OR DOES ANYTHING ABOUT IT. Hint to DEE. ( dang, just wasted a hint). Totally WRONG to say Sandy hasn't fought anybody, especially right after you recognize she whooped on Ina Menzer. Ina is a HOMER but she is a BANGER. Sure, she'd have a few losses on her record if she fought outside of bratwurst-ville, but the chances of that happening are slim and none. And slim left town eons ago. Don't get me wrong, I respect Belinda, she is a totally game fighter who comes to win. BUT I don't think she has a sizeable punch. I wished she step in, dig in and bang more, but that that is not her technique. Who would you rather watch than Sandy? Seriously, She is THE SPARTAN! TD ______________________________________________________ Every where has had a bad hometown descisons and of course every fighter that is good or decent has been robbed in a fight but if you haven't been robbed in a boxing match than your a horrible fighter or the fighter who does the robbing in a fight. fighter deserves a good fight but they end up not getting it. Sandy got 1 loss but other fighters have been robbed continously more than 1 loss written on their record. Blaming Dee isn't what you should be doing, you should blame the people who commissioned the fight and the companies of the titles that Ina held. I think most fighters have an amount of potential but to realize it they have to be pushed more. Sandy is a very talented boxer I hope she fights Jeanine Garside or Jerri Sites. I would like to see many boxers return to the ring but because of the times it is easy to understand the slow down in matches. |
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Post by TD on May 21, 2009 19:46:01 GMT -5
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Every where has had a bad hometown descisons and of course every fighter that is good or decent has been robbed in a fight but if you haven't been robbed in a boxing match than your a horrible fighter or the fighter who does the robbing in a fight.
fighter deserves a good fight but they end up not getting it. Sandy got 1 loss but other fighters have been robbed continously more than 1 loss written on their record. Blaming Dee isn't what you should be doing, you should blame the people who commissioned the fight and the companies of the titles that Ina held.
JASON,
I am not blaming Dee for HOMER decisions!! She is just a TOOL for HOMER PROMOTERS.
Look at your post, you state that there are plenty of HOMER DECISIONS robbing the sport...well DEE's rating help "wallpaper" over the top of those HOMER SCAMS by rating the fights as "real" or "honest" or the same as a REAL fair fight.
My point is, it has to stop if the sport is going to have any integrity and acting like the HOMER_PROMOTER'S TOOL = negative integrity, IMO.
Trust me, Dee and I have gone round and round over this...she doesn't get it or refuses to do anyting about it. That's one reason I think her ratings are worth a used toothpick, IMO.
As far as Sandy getting jobbed, well ONCE is ONE TIME TOO MANY, IMO.
I know it happens but the correlation to a rob job comes thru a HOMER PROMOTER.
TD
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Post by Dee Williams on May 21, 2009 21:03:03 GMT -5
For the record, I have no connection whatsoever with any promoter.
I have repeatedly tried to explain to TD that the only effective way to deal with homer decisions is BEFORE the fights - when judges are appointed and while sanctioning bodies could have some influence on fairness should they choose to exert it, not after the judges have rendered their decision, when it's way too late and the results are in the books.
Attacking the issue starting from the wrong end and too late, as TD does, won't get anyone anything useful.
But we have been over this same ground SO MANY times here, I'm not going to keep posting the same points over and over just because TD does and just because he loves riding the same dead horse every few months.
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Post by Dee Williams on May 21, 2009 21:15:38 GMT -5
Back to Sandy, who was the point of the thread, in my list of 2009 fights I'd like to see - Jeannine Garside vs Sandy Tsagouris This could be Canada's best for 2009 ... |
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Post by Dee Williams on May 23, 2009 23:26:36 GMT -5
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it think it wouldve been a good fight!
