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Post by Sergey Kuznecov on May 18, 2009 18:38:04 GMT -5
This is the russian news.
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Post by Jason Ozuma on May 19, 2009 6:26:58 GMT -5
This is the russian news. I think this is horrible news for me..lol jk I think this will be better than most of the matches Ragosina has had but it will still be lacking alot. Leatitia Robinson was good and more active back in the day but she hasn't had alot of fights. |
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Post by Willie Edwards on May 21, 2009 17:35:41 GMT -5
Leatisha is a hell of a fighter -im not sure whom won this fight can someone tell me -i would put my money on Tish.
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Post by Jason Ozuma on May 22, 2009 12:46:13 GMT -5
Leatisha is a hell of a fighter -im not sure whom won this fight can someone tell me -i would put my money on Tish. Leatitia Robinson was a good boxer in 2001 that was her peak 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006 This is 2009, she, Robinson is facing someone who has quick jabs, no ko power but favor in the crowd and the judges and she, Robinison is getting off her first loss...So as you can see Ragosina is the only one with the most advantage.. Ragosina has been fighting in the ring constanly and the only way to win for robinson is by ko.... The thing is some boxers want to face Ragosina but can they really handle her?? And I know Robinson is one of those boxers that say they want a crack at her but i worry they really can't handle her. even though I would love to see Ragosina loss and her belts snatched away because of her cocky attitude and the fact that she isn't really a big deal. However I hope this is a good match |
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Post by Jason Ozuma on May 27, 2009 12:55:08 GMT -5
What happened.....looks like Ramsey is fighting Ragosina???
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Post by computerrank on May 27, 2009 15:22:57 GMT -5
According to Boxrec
Ramsey was said to be her opponent on May 16
this switched to Robinson on May 20
and it now switched back to Ramsey on May 26
It seems not to be fixed really
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Post by Jason Ozuma on May 27, 2009 20:23:19 GMT -5
According to Boxrec Ramsey was said to be her opponent on May 16 this switched to Robinson on May 20 and it now switched back to Ramsey on May 26 It seems not to be fixed really I really hope that Ragosina doesn't fight Ramsey...but if she does I hope that she is prepared..both her Ramsey and Robinison. |
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Post by Dee Williams on May 27, 2009 20:55:39 GMT -5
Ragosina fought Ramsey in the amateurs, in a USA-Russia Dual in Russia in September 2003. Ragosina won, but I can't find the scoring details.
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Post by Jason Ozuma on May 27, 2009 21:42:29 GMT -5
Ragosina fought Ramsey in the amateurs, in a USA-Russia Dual in Russia in September 2003. Ragosina won, but I can't find the scoring details. How is that helpful?? Ramsey is about to enter MMA. I am just hoping she doesn't throw her career by away in this fight. The title commissions may not care but the fans will always care.... Ramsey if you fight ragosina win big...nothing less |
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Post by Jason Ozuma on May 28, 2009 7:30:19 GMT -5
Ragosina fought Ramsey in the amateurs, in a USA-Russia Dual in Russia in September 2003. Ragosina won, but I can't find the scoring details. How is that helpful?? Ramsey is about to enter MMA. I am just hoping she doesn't throw her career by away in this fight. The title commissions may not care but the fans will always care.... Ramsey if you fight ragosina win big...nothing less Ramsey just like somany boxers are going into mma but that isn't a suprising thing thought. Here is part of a story i found at newmexicoboxing.com Former NABF champ Monica Lovato will be co-headlining a King of the Cage MMA card in Ruidoso, N.M. on May 30. After her title fight with Melinda Cooper fell through, earlier this month, Lovato made a permanent switch from boxing to MMA. On May 30, Lovato will face Melissa Vasquez of Fort Wayne, Ind. |
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Post by Dee Williams on May 28, 2009 7:34:35 GMT -5
It is always somewhat helpful to have faced an opponent before to know what to expect from them physically although in this case it's a long time and not the same exposure that Braekhus and Skovgaard had to each other from multiple previous fights for example. There is also the mental part as the previous loss to Ragosina gives Ramsey something to avenge and Ragosina something to feel extra confident about. Of course a ten rounder for a world title in front of the full pro hoopla will be a totally different scenario from a four round amateur bout in Russia but it may still be helpful to Ramsey's preparation that she has gone four with Ragosina before. and vice versa. The "MMA factor" is also relevant because it can be a loss of focus for the Americans who now try to do both sports at once. Elena Reid has gone downhill as a boxer since she started messing around with MMA but I do not know how much is cause and how much is effect, and how much the loss of focus comes from other things. But you have to be very much in charge of yourself mentally to do well in different combat sports at a high level at the same time as well as developing the different physical skills needed. Chevelle Hallback may be able to pull this off but Elena Reid isn't, at least not so far. Erin Toughill didn't make a great showing as a boxer coming the other way either. nor did world class kickboxer Kathy Long so I get a bit dubious when anyone who is trying to compete at the top level says they want to do multiple combat sports at the same time. It may be doable by a superb athlete but it's got to be harder than doing one sport then moving to the other. With kickboxing the people who have done both that and boxing really well at the top level -- Rijker, Messer -- did one sport first and then the other. As well as being awesome athletes they basically separated their pro careers into two distinct phases. |
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Post by Jason Ozuma on May 28, 2009 11:26:07 GMT -5
It is always somewhat helpful to have faced an opponent before to know what to expect from them physically although in this case it's a long time and not the same exposure that Braekhus and Skovgaard had to each other from multiple previous fights for example. There is also the mental part as the previous loss to Ragosina gives Ramsey something to avenge and Ragosina something to feel extra confident about. Of course a ten rounder for a world title in front of the full pro hoopla will be a totally different scenario from a four round amateur bout in Russia but it may still be helpful to Ramsey's preparation that she has gone four with Ragosina before. and vice versa. I hope Ramsey wins, i mean alot of boxers have been wanting to sink their teeth into Ragosina for a while but i believe the only one that will avoid them is Wang ya Nan because she has china and titles and a promotion that can probably lure fighters over there. Ramsey gets her fight with Ragosina but i hope she is ready and I want her to win...ramsey that is.. |
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Post by Jason Ozuma on May 28, 2009 11:51:16 GMT -5
ES Boxgala on 3 July 2009 in Hanover Lenny Soccio Ice & Event center WM-fight 1: Box Zarin Natascha Ragosina meets lady RAM the American „“ WM-fight 2: Esther Schouten fights for vakanten WIBF title The number 1 of the world, the ungeschlagene box Zarin Natascha Ragosina (20-0-0, 12 K.o. 's) rises on 3 July 2009 re into the ring. In „the Lenny Soccio Ice & Event center “in Hanover (Brussels STR. 1, 30853 Langenhagen) the Weltboxerin of the yearly 2008 of the US American Laura Ramsey (9-3-0, 4 K.o meets. 's). „Lady RAM “won 2007 the GBU world championship prematurely against Conjestina Achieng by technical K.o. The Kenianerin Achieng had given Natascha Ragosina last year to two heavy Fights, which could win the Moskauerin only to points. The duel between the two ladies becomes the more exciting. Can Laura Ramsey set itself against Natascha Ragosina more strongly in scene than Achieng, or does send the world champion the American in prematurely ring-deaf? Natascha Ragosina will defend the belts of the WBA and WBC in the fight. Apart from the double world championship between Ragosina and Ramsey SES presents a further world championship. Esther Schouten of Hamburg stable „the spotlight boxing “receives the chance from the WIBF around the vakanten WM-belt in the junior feather/spring weight to boxes (the Gegnerin of the Dutchwoman one announces shortly). Ex world champion Schouten fought after serious illness in January against Ina Menzer for the WIBF WM title in the feather/spring weight. In this duel it was subject to points. Now the ex world champion looks for its chance a weight class more deeply. With SES Boxgala in Hanover also Superweltergewichtler Lukas Konecny (39-3-0, 19 K.o becomes. 's) boxes. The number 2 the WBO Weltrangliste is champion Sergiy Dzinziruk already on the heels. One year ago the native Czech was subject to the Superchamp disputed to points. It wants to gladly again place itself to Dzinziruk and as more official provokes against it to begin. The Fight in Hanover can heave it on the position in demand. In the context of the world championships further attractive box mating will have to be seen. The DSF transfers the fights from Hanover live starting from 21.15 o'clock. There are maps over the ticket hotline 01805-007117 (0.14 euros/min a.d.dt. Fixed network, mobile prices can deviate) or unt
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Post by Jason Ozuma on Jun 9, 2009 19:28:15 GMT -5
Superchampion Natascha Ragosina will defend the belts of the WBA and WBC in the fight. At present completed Natascha Ragosina completes the hardest combat preparation of its career. In the Caucasus mountains of Kislovodsk the world champion struggles since at the end of of May. In addition it got itself one of the berühmstesten fit eating coaches of the world to its side. Jim Barcena from Los Angeles, which already trained Jennifer Lopez, New Year's Eve Stallone, Penelope Cruz, Mike Tyson, Sugar Ray Leonard and Monika Seles, brings Natascha Ragosina in Top form. The threefold Russian olympia winner Buwaisar Saitijew and Kostja Tszyu, ex world champion in halfworld-suppl.-yielded and one of the best boxers of the last decades, support Natascha Ragosina during its combat preparations. In addition, Laura Ramsey sees the fight against Natascha Ragosina as a special challenge. It concerns to strike the strongest woman of the world. Who can decorate itself with a victory against the box Zarin, becomes even the strongest box lady on the planet. And „lady RAM “put itself this ambitious goal. Apart from the double world championship between Ragosina and Ramsey SES presents a further world championship.
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Post by Christian Brown on Jun 10, 2009 9:03:42 GMT -5
And this was obviously translated, but it does make sense. Go Leaticia!
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Post by Dee Williams on Jun 10, 2009 15:01:38 GMT -5
Ragosina is fighting Laura Ramsey
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Post by Jason Ozuma on Jun 10, 2009 15:01:43 GMT -5
And this was obviously translated, but it does make sense. Go Leaticia! Christian.....Laura ramsey is going against Ragosina not Leaticia..... |
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Post by Christian Brown on Jun 11, 2009 8:56:08 GMT -5
Sorry about that... I was tired from sparring and trying to finish my thesis... and I was ducking sniper fire lol.
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Post by John Hill on Jun 11, 2009 17:52:09 GMT -5
Laura Ramsey is one of the hardest punchers in the game. I saw her destroy the Swedish girl in Laughin and knock Toughill compleltely outof the ring at Lake Tahoe. Ramsey or Robinson could beat this girl on neutral ground but she is sheltered in Germany. You can't win in Germany so take the money and split.
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Post by Dee Williams on Jun 11, 2009 19:48:57 GMT -5
Laura also TKO'd Conjestina Achieng in Kenya and KO'd Ijeoma Egbunine in the 1st round - but she has not fought in over a year. She has KO power, but perhaps some ring rust. If Laura brings her best to this fight a KO would not be a big surprise. Ragosina was much less impressive against Achieng in Germany than Laura was in Kenya.
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Post by Jason Ozuma on Jun 12, 2009 2:13:26 GMT -5
Laura also TKO'd Conjestina Achieng in Kenya and KO'd Ijeoma Egbunine in the 1st round - but she has not fought in over a year. She has KO power, but perhaps some ring rust. If Laura brings her best to this fight a KO would not be a big surprise. Ragosina was much less impressive against Achieng in Germany than Laura was in Kenya. That is what worries me alot about this fight Ragosina has money from my last post you can see there team SES boxing trainer, no ring rust and speed, now if you are hit a 100 times or more you will eventually fall Ramsey is an underdog and I hope see can pull a great upset. |
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Post by Christian Brown on Jun 12, 2009 10:09:54 GMT -5
Yeah, this is kinda reminding me of the circumstances with Hallback vs Holm. Is Ramsey going to able to get inside of Ragosina's reach, or is Ragosina going to pull a Wlad Klitchsko and hold Ramsey when she gets inside?
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Post by Natalie Brown-Johnson on Jun 12, 2009 15:43:41 GMT -5
From what I've seen of Ragosina's record, the chances of her stopping a fighter of Ramsey's caliber is VERY unlikely. Her only noteable stoppage is of Yovonne Reis, who is naturally a smaller fighter. Ramsey will be the aggressor all night, she will have to cut the ring off and not give Ragosina a minute to breathe much like she did against Toughill 2. I don't see Ramsey as an underdog, she is a fighter that rises to the occasion, this is nothing new for her. She know's in taking this fight that the only way she's going to get a fair decision is by KO. Ramsey's one of my favorite fighters, I wish her all the best!
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Post by Jason Ozuma on Jun 12, 2009 17:00:49 GMT -5
From what I've seen of Ragosina's record, the chances of her stopping a fighter of Ramsey's caliber is VERY unlikely. Her only noteable stoppage is of Yovonne Reis, who is naturally a smaller fighter. Ramsey will be the aggressor all night, she will have to cut the ring off and not give Ragosina a minute to breathe much like she did against Toughill 2. I don't see Ramsey as an underdog, she is a fighter that rises to the occasion, this is nothing new for her. She know's in taking this fight that the only way she's going to get a fair decision is by KO. Ramsey's one of my favorite fighters, I wish her all the best! i wish her the best too and I like Ramsey as well but you Natalie do realize what happen to you with Raika can happen to alot of boxers...so the pressure is big plus ramsey only found about this fight at last minute. Ragosina knew she was having thiis fight way ahead of time. |
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Post by Natalie Brown-Johnson on Jun 13, 2009 9:23:04 GMT -5
That is why I like Ramsey, you bet she is fully aware of the odds! Look at her history, she's alway's fighting under those circumstances. She has nothing to lose, she's gone through the good, bad and ugly, she's just gonna FIGHT! Who is feeling pressure is Ragosina, she could lose everything with one punch;)
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Post by Christian Brown on Jun 13, 2009 14:32:06 GMT -5
I look at it like this... Rags has a 5 or 6 inch height advantage, and in some of her previous fights, she's held and moved and somehow, got decisions. All the holding and trying to run out the clock, that's what is bothering me about this. If you've got biased judging and biased reffing, and you've got an opponent who isn't going to fight, but hold you and move around... you've got a hell of a problem.
I'm not doubting Ramsey's abilities at all. I think she's great, but I don't want this great fighter to fall victim to a bad styles match or bad politics. I am rooting for a good fight and a fair decision.
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Post by Jason Ozuma on Jun 13, 2009 22:45:11 GMT -5
That is why I like Ramsey, you bet she is fully aware of the odds! Look at her history, she's alway's fighting under those circumstances. She has nothing to lose, she's gone through the good, bad and ugly, she's just gonna FIGHT! Who is feeling pressure is Ragosina, she could lose everything with one punch;) Natalie is right about one thing.... Ramsey has nothing to lose Laura Ramsey will be going into MMA like other boxers and I believe Ragosina has a lot to lose if she does the same way she did with Achieng...but Russians nor Europeans or Americans are that stupid.. There going to make sure Ragosina wins and wins big that is why she has the trainer and this tought training. HOwever like Germans they have a shecdule on the end of 2008 who they will fight in 2009 and I believe Ragosina after Iva Weston has been training to redeem her self and her image . |
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Post by Jason Ozuma on Jul 3, 2009 17:11:21 GMT -5
Looks like Ramsey lose and now she is going into mma....
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